Talk:SMS Novara (1850)

	S.M. Frigate Novara
History
Austrian Empire
Name	Novara
Owner	k.k. Navy
Builder	list error: <br /> list (help); Arsenale di Venezia; ; Arsenale di Pola (1856; 1861).
Laid down	1843-09-20
Launched	1850-11-04
Commissioned	1851-06
Decommissioned	finally in 1898.
In service	1851-1856; 1857–1859; 1862-1898
General characteristics
Displacement	2107 t
Length	50,35 m
Beam	13,80 m
Armour	list error: <br /> list (help); 42 30-pounders ; (30 during circumnavigation)

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At first reading, I see two of them:

There was no Austro-Hungarian Navy (K.u.K.) before Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867. At the time the ship made its famous voyage, it belonged to k.k. Navy of the Habsburg Empire.
Novara was completely rebuilt in 1861-1862 and was propeller-driven frigate from then on, and by far huger (~50m => ~60m). She hadn't even the same Figurehead (object)! In fact, so-called "renewal work" had just been a trick to get the emperor's OK on the project -- he was hardly interested in his navy, was short of money, and would not have agreed in building a new ship. Research for the latest book, David G. L. Weiss, Gerd Schilddorfer: Novara – Österreichs Traum von der Weltmacht. Amalthea, Wien 2010, ISBN 978-3-85002-705-2 (German). seems to prove that just about two ribs (Boat building) seem to have been used for the new hull ;)

I recently edited de:SMS Novara (1850) on those facts, but at this thime feel unable to improve enWP. Maybe some native speaker with ~Babel_2 German might care? --[w.] 09:38, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I did my best to fill the ship info form, but did not really come clear.

Note that the flag I use is correct: the funny thing is that a well-armed frigate was declared to be neutral, which was even accepted by France with whom Austria was in war, at that time. --[w.] 10:17, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

On the two quite different versions of the ship see File:SMS Novara versions 1861 vs 1862 comparison.jpg, or COM. Best, [w.] 09:55, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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