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Swang (dance drama) moved to Saang

23:50, 26 June 2015‎ SMcCandlish (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (74 bytes) (0)‎ . . (SMcCandlish moved page Swang (dance drama) to Saang: avoid awkward disambiguation by using alt. name) (undo | thank)

@SMcCandlish: hi, are you sure that "Saang" is as common. Swang seems to get twice as many hits in English India/dance books. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:32, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am not, but it's clearly common enough. Remember that WP:COMMONNAME is not one of the WP:CRITERIA at all; it's a default choice to test against the actual criteria. Saang fits not only COMMONNAME's "Use commonly recognizable names", it also fits all the real criteria, while Swang (dance drama) is a poor choice under the WP:CONCISE criterion – it's unnecessary disambiguation we can avoid for something that doesn't have a single overwhelmingly common name in English (though I guess it depends on just how much more common you want something to be before you insist on it as a WP:COMMONNAME matter). COMMONNAME also says "Wikipedia generally prefers the name that is most commonly used" – this is not a requirement to always use it, especally when there are good reasons not to (and, yes, COMMONNAME's wording has softened over time, just in the last couple of years, likely as a result of too many obsessive applications of it as if it were not only among the actual criteria but chief among them, which is the opposite of the actual truth and intent). A ×2 casual Google test doesn't, in my view, qualify as sufficient reason, given the awkwardness of "Swang (dance drama)", which is basically a descriptive disambiguation combined with a parenthetical one, and is something no one would actually search for in a zillion years. I'm not opposed to an RM discussion about it, but would !vote on these bases to keep it at the present title (unless there's something else notable named Saang about which we need an article, in which case there could be a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC issue to wrestle with). — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ 18:18, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]