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Edit warring and vandalism

Hello all, it seems a couple of eager users are consistently deleting sourced and referenced contributions by other editors. Please note these actions constitute edit warring or even vandalism, not my adding information you might not agree with. Thank you. -213.74.186.109 (talk) 09:28, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The contributions of user 213.74.186.109 are very poorly sourced (only extremely biased sources like Turkish AKP media) and form a blantant violation of NPOV and BLP. Therefore they should not be added resp. quickly removed. 84.187.155.186 (talk) 13:53, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that user 213.74.186.109 is trying to smear Salih Muslim Muhammad by relate him to certain terror attacks where in reality there is no connection except in Turkish propaganda. 84.187.155.186 (talk) 14:02, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Really? Obviously you are unaware or chose to ignore the news. Firstly, please do not confuse a legal government with terrorist organisations such as the PKK and the PYD who are puppets of the EU. Secondly, please keep in mind the real propaganda machine are outlets from Europe such as ANF and Rudaw who are being financed by enemies of the state. Thirdly, you are clearly biased in calling Turkish sources AKP propaganda. It is so out of touch with reality that is is not even worth a discussion.

I stand with the facts. Where do you stand? -213.74.186.109 (talk) 05:08, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If user 213.74.186.109 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is so naive that he really believes the Turkish propaganda, that's mostly his problem. However, user 213.74.186.109 should stop spamming wikipedia with such nonsense. 2003:77:4F5D:EC07:B4A7:C70A:B3D7:6F1E (talk) 17:57, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a forum. Please take your personal views somewhere else. Come to me with facts or remain silent. -213.74.186.109 (talk) 11:41, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't copy my statement and pass it yourself. Seriously... Editor abcdef (talk) 09:31, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

User 213.74.186.109 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) should learn that saying "I stand with the facts" does not replace the obligation to present facts with reliable sources. Also, user 213.74.186.109 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) should stop spamming wikipedia, here and elsewhere, with his political views and conspiracy theories. 2003:77:4F4D:FC25:3089:EA2:C4AD:1482 (talk) 08:20, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

LOL, seriously some users are delusional. I come with references and all they can do is deny them claiming propaganda. Conspiracy theories also have a place in articles. No worries, all I include are FACTS. -213.74.186.109 (talk) 05:51, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Info that needs to be added

Hi, the following info needs to be mentioned as it relates to the topic and is referenced:

The state-run Anadolu Agency reported on November 22, 2016 that arrest warrants had been issued in Turkey for Salih Muslim and 47 other PKK/PYD accomplices for alleged connections to 17 February 2016 Ankara bombing, which killed 29 people some 300 meters from the Turkish Parliament. The then Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, named the Ankara bomber as Salih Necar, a Syrian national and member of the Syrian Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG).

Thanks. -Human like you (talk) 10:48, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

1) Wikipedia is not a WP:SOAPBOX.

2) This material violates WP:BLP.

3) The same issue has been discussed in the previous section. There is obviously no consensus to include this. 2003:77:4F16:6438:6D9A:585D:CE80:2B48 (talk) 12:09, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Still waiting for an actual registered account to reply, not some... I'll stop there. :) -Human like you (talk) 10:01, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Come to think of it, too many anonymous IP users and MAC addresses are vandalising this article. I will wait for a week and add the info if no independent user comes back with a resonable argument against it. Thank you very much. -Human like you (talk) 10:21, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Clear violation of WP:BLP. When adding information about living persons, only proven FACTS are allowed. What you're trying to add is an allegation, it's nowhere near being proven.79.246.16.150 (talk) 10:51, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm tempted to logout to support the ip editors responding here. The same issue has been discussed in the previous section. There is obviously no consensus to include this. Roxy the dog. bark 10:55, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Don't do that, he won't take anything serious if it comes from an IP user. He's really quick in calling IPs "Sockpuppets" and "Stalkers".79.246.16.150 (talk) 11:03, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

... and was an ip user himself until a few days ago. Roxy the dog. bark 14:06, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You are not coming back with any valid arguments. All I read are accusations that they are not facts but allegations. Regardless, it needs to be included in the article to neutralize what has become a propaganda outlet for the YPG/PYD/SDF.

Roxy the dog., have you checked out what these "unrelated" IP users did? Please do not comment prematurely if you have not done your research. I have no issue with IP users since I was one myself and the page I was editing was semi-protected, but I do have an issue with those who revert every contribution I make. Thanks. Human like you (talk) 09:16, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder what sort of an argument some users will come up with against a plethora of sources and information on the net. Human like you (talk) 09:33, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Everything, in particular the BLP issue, has already been explained to user 'Human like you' again and again in this and the preceding section. User 'Human like you' should read this and stop making controversial edits without consensus. 2003:77:4F1F:D925:28A8:F946:AC16:C8AA (talk) 15:04, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Human like you, you're a heavy POV-pusher. No one outside Turkey is even bothering with the lies being spread by Erdogans propaganda outlets.79.246.6.71 (talk) 17:19, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please add important clarifications about current and recent administrative posts of Saleh Muslim.

At least since late October, 2018, he was moved to joint head of the PYD [Diplomatic] Relations Office:
https://pydrojava.net/arabic/archives/41672
https://pydrojava.net/arabic/archives/43871
Since 23 January 2019 he became mentioned as head of the PYD Public Relations Office:
http://www.hawarnews.com/en/haber/muslim-mcgurk-statements-are-not-new-we-have-already-said-that-h6385.html
http://ronahi.net/?p=23584
And since 28 January, he is referred to as PYD Official Spokesman:
http://www.hawarnews.com/en/haber/saleh-muslim-people-uprising-in-basr-expresses-unity-of-kurdish-ranks-h6510.html
http://www.hawarnews.com/en/haber/saleh-muslim-not-recognizing-daa-is-core-problem-in-solving-case-isis-detainees-h7074.html
I myself may not be able to make changes in the near future, plus some of the "responsible" for Rojava region have a particular opinion of what needs to be placed and what is not, I do not want to waste time in vain.
Dalany Mokus (talk) 14:01, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]