Talk:Samuel Finley

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O.K. I can understand most of the changes here. However, I honestly think that specifying his mother's father as Samuel O'Neill is not a waste of space here.

In history O'Neill or the Oi Neil [sp?](I think that O is basically "the grandson of") are kind of a "big deal", and maybe the actual name, the way I had it is actually a rendering in modern form of her name as it would perhaps have been said in her own time ? I think I have it right here. Well, I think Samuel O'Neill is good, and that having his full name is actually better form than not having it, but will not do it unless somebody else also agrees.John5Russell3Finley 18:06, 14 February 2007 (UTC)



I agree with the above. It appears this page isn't growing very rapidly, but I would like to contribute a bit that I stumbled across. Sometimes these "migrations" sound like the people just decided to "move on" - but there was an interesting bit in

The Scotch-Irish Google Book on page 24.

If I read it correctly, he was sort of "run out of town" by the constable and escorted from city to city. This is probably one of the many little "breaches" that led the American Colonies to separate from British rule. If nothing else, it provides good insight into how & why this particular Finley wound up moving and eventually wound up in Princeton NJ. So... I'm going to try and put in a little reference to this and at least list the Google Book as a source. Obviously, a more "primary source" would be some court or Presbytery record indicating his "punishment" of "transport". 14:21, 12 October 2009 (UTC) GregCampbellUSA —Preceding unsigned comment added by GregCampbellUSA (talkcontribs)

the DD[edit]

For some time I have been aware of ill informed people making trouble about his DD. Unlike in modern times, when you now have to go through all sorts of institutionalised examinations administered at the location of the grantor, in the original scheme of things that was most often not the way you got your advanced degree. In Dr Finley's day things worked quite a bit differently for the average accademic: 1) You went to school and got your first degree. 2) When you had in the outside world done impressive enough things you were awarded your advanced degree (IT WAS SENT TO YOU). A Masters degree or a Doctorate was more of a certification of your accomplishments in the outside world. There is nothing in any way suspect about Dr. Finley's DD. It is legitimate, and legitimately got. The problem here is that a few folks are stuck in the 21st Century and can't seem to wrap their heads around the way things used to be done.John5Russell3Finley (talk) 14:53, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

I would like to solicit comments here about the above statement (poorly worded though it may be I think it is the truth), does anyone know enough about this stuff to prove or disprove that his DD was awarded pretty much the same way most others were awarded at that time ? Lacking any comment that provides a logical reason for refraining, I think it would make quite a bit of sense for someone to some time next month remove the misplaced word. John5Russell3Finley (talk) 15:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)