Talk:Scottish independence

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to 2 external links on Scottish independence. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

You may set the |checked=, on this template, to true or failed to let other editors know you reviewed the change. If you find any errors, please use the tools below to fix them or call an editor by setting |needhelp= to your help request.

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

If you are unable to use these tools, you may set |needhelp=<your help request> on this template to request help from an experienced user. Please include details about your problem, to help other editors.

Cheers. —cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 12:37, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on Scottish independence. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

You may set the |checked=, on this template, to true or failed to let other editors know you reviewed the change. If you find any errors, please use the tools below to fix them or call an editor by setting |needhelp= to your help request.

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

If you are unable to use these tools, you may set |needhelp=<your help request> on this template to request help from an experienced user. Please include details about your problem, to help other editors.

Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 07:47, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on Scottish independence. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

You may set the |checked=, on this template, to true or failed to let other editors know you reviewed the change. If you find any errors, please use the tools below to fix them or call an editor by setting |needhelp= to your help request.

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

If you are unable to use these tools, you may set |needhelp=<your help request> on this template to request help from an experienced user. Please include details about your problem, to help other editors.

Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 03:25, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Libdems stance[edit]

Libdems stance is unclear right now: http://stv.tv/news/politics/1358703-lib-dem-members-lobby-party-to-back-independence-referendum/ --2A02:908:C30:3680:4049:781B:55BF:5254 (talk) 11:18, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Polling[edit]

Where was it established that only polls from British Polling Council members are acceptable? Normally the fact that a poll was conducted for, and reported in, a major newspaper would be sufficient for notability and legitimacy to be satisfied. You can't just unilaterally impose a criterion after the fact. Please demonstrate justification for this requirement, and why the Scotpulse poll should be excluded while one with a sample of just 626 is allowed. Anna Lertreader (talk) 16:55, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

See Opinion polling for the Scottish independence referendum, 2014. No tables have been made available for the Scotpulse poll. We don't know what the basis for their findings is. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 17:06, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Several polls on that page also have no tables available (eg YouGov/The Sun 15–17 Sep), so that clearly isn't good enough as a reason. The Sunday Post is a reputable newspaper and Scotpulse have been used by several media outlets. Anna Lertreader (talk) 17:15, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
The YouGov site is linked in a few instances because the original links to their tables no longer work. Please provide examples of Scotpulse's work. It looks like a dubious result, given the other recent polling, in a poll conducted by a company with a limited track record. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 17:35, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Scotpulse is part of STV, which I presume you consider a legitimate source. http://www.stvplc.tv/blog/2012/06/stvs-unique-and-dedicated-online-research-panel-scotpulse-captures-mood-of-the-nation https://www.mrs.org.uk/event/network/stv_panel_research/course/1295 Anna Lertreader (talk) 17:39, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
I've no strong opinion either way on this, but it does seem sensible to establish some kind of level of authority for opinion polls included. Otherwise we could have any old rubbish in there. Please also do not keep reverting disputed additions. Establish consensus, then edit. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 18:00, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Scotland's largest commercial broadcaster and one of its oldest established newspapers seem an eminently reasonable level of authority. I don't know what would count if those weren't sufficient. The personal endorsement of the First Minister? Edit comments noted. Anna Lertreader (talk) 18:03, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Consensus during the EU Referendum, was only polls by BPC members should be included on the main table. This establishes a level of quality, as all polls included are held to the same standards of polling. All non-BPC member polls were mentioned elsewhere in the article, or on a separate table. The same is done at Proposed second Scottish independence referendum. Antiochus the Great (talk) 18:15, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
I asked you some time ago where evidence of this consensus could be found. I seem to be still waiting. Anna Lertreader (talk) 18:35, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
From looking at the Scotpulse site, I don't see any other political polls or any supporting material for their one poll on Scottish independence. As their result was wildly out of line with other more creditable sources, it seems legitimate to question the veracity of their poll. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 18:18, 24 July 2016 (UTC)