Talk:Shadow Secretary of State for Scotland

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2005[edit]

Should James Gray be included between Duncan and Laing? As his article notes Howard appointed him after the election (Duncan had lost his seat), but controversy meant he lasted less than a week. Dunarc (talk) 22:52, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also I have just noticed the info box in Eleanor Laing's article gives her start date as 19 May 2005, not 6 May as stated here. There is also a slight conflict with the infobox on Peter Duncan's article as that has him finishing on 5th May, but that is unlikely given that his defeat was only announced in the early hours of 6th May. Dunarc (talk) 23:58, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Source for Fraser[edit]

Can anybody support the claim that Tom Fraser held the position from 1951. The nature of shadow posts before the later 1950s was more fluid, but The Times Guide to the House of Commons for 1964 suggests he did not join the Labour Parliamentary Committee (ie the Shadow Cabinet) until 1956 and his biography in the 1955 edition does not seem to indicate that he held shadow office at that time. Dunarc (talk) 23:47, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also I would note that his article currently does not mention that he was Shadow Secretary of State for Scotland, although his obituary in the Glasgow Evening Times on 22 November 1988 states that "he was Shadow Scottish Secretary for man years". I will add the fact that he held the office to his article with the reference. Dunarc (talk) 19:32, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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1974-1975[edit]

I have been unable to add this myself as am not able to get it to show successfully, but Alick Buchanan-Smith, held the post from March 1974 under Ted Heath following the fall of the Heath Government after the February 1974 United Kingdom general election, which had seen the sitting Secretary of State for Scotland Gordon Campbell lose his seat. Buchanan-Smith then was left in the position by Margaret Thatcher despite reports he was considering refusing to serve under her following her election as leader. The following references confirm this - ^[1]^[2] I would be glad is somebody who is better than editing tables than myself would be able to fix this. Dunarc (talk) 19:36, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Dunarc: Thanks. I've updated the table. --Oravrattas (talk) 10:02, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for sorting this. Dunarc (talk) 19:34, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ The Times Guide to the House of Commons October 1974. London: Times Books. 1964. p. 38. ISBN 0 7230 0124 3.
^ Warden, John (12 February 1975). "Top Tories may not serve under Mrs Thatcher". The Glasgow Herald. p. 1. Retrieved 3 May 2020.

[TimesGuideOct74-1] The Times Guide to the House of Commons October 1974. London: Times Books. 1964. p. 38. ISBN 0 7230 0124 3.

[GH12Feb1975-2] Warden, John (12 February 1975). "Top Tories may not serve under Mrs Thatcher". The Glasgow Herald. p. 1. Retrieved 3 May 2020.

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