Talk:Space Mutiny

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Big Mc Large Huge[edit]

Can someone explain the meaning of the phrase "Mc Large Huge" ? I've scoured the entire Internets for the meaning, but the best I've managed to find is that some people called the main character of Space Mutiny by that name or something. Oddity- (talk) 03:29, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

It's not a reference to anything specific, it's just a joke about the kind of names the heroes in low-budget, poorly made action movies (and sometimes in better movies) have. Big McLargehuge, Crunch Buttsteak, Buff Drinklots, etc. are just mocking the uninspired and cliche naming of such characters. 72.205.225.109 (talk) 14:46, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Battlestar Galactica non-riffs[edit]

Could someone add a reference to the claim that Mike and the 'Bots explained their omission of any Battlestar Galactica riffs as being too easy? Thanks. — Jeff Q (talk) 05:28, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Never saw an official explanation only their admission that they indeed made no jokes regarding the Galactica footage. They only say they are "Guilty as Charged" without explanation as to why. Mr. ATOZ 20:18, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Personally, I'd argue that the MST3K writers were simply not fans of Battlestar Galactica and just didn't recognize the footage. Contrary to popular view, the MST3K crew are not big sci-fi geeks, at least not with regard to flops like Battlestar Galactica.Raymondluxuryacht 05:59, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Nah, they make BG riffs elsewhere in the series, so one must assume that they deliberately avoided it. BUT I'm looking for citable references; our opinions are not encyclopedic. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 06:54, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Personally, I think they did make a BG reference but in a discrete fashion. "We put all our faith in Blast Hardcheese" as Cameron Mitchell is walking towards the camera. And "We put all our faith in..." is a perfect example of the melodramatic lines Lorne Greene was always uttering on the show. Just swap Blast Hardcheese for "Starbuck, Apollo, and Boomer".137.198.122.75 (talk) 19:54, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Payments for rights to Battlestar footage[edit]

Does anyone have any idea how much they had to pay for the right to use the battlestar galactica special effects?

Not sure if they did... 68.39.174.238 04:35, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
I notice that the opening shot - a flypast of the Galactica / "Southern Sun" - is played backwards, so that the spaceship flies engine-first towards the camera. I'm not sure if this is a mistake, or an attempt to make the footage seem new, or whether the camera is supposed to be overhauling the spaceship. Most subsequent shots show the ship shailing forwards. The title credits appear to be generated in real time by a home computer, perhaps an Apple II. -Ashley Pomeroy 20:32, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
User Tarantulas on the Rifftrax forums e-mailed the director and asked how they got the BSG footage[1]. There was no price mentioned but the director's did say, "I bought out takes from Universal Studios. My deal was, i could only use them in this one particular film." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.26.117.245 (talk) 19:22, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

References

Abandoned factory[edit]

The article says that the engineering-section footage was "obviously" filmed in an abandoned factory. I have read somewhere, but cannot find now, that those sequences were actually filmed in the basement of a casino. Can anyone verify this? -- Antaeus Feldspar 17:06, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

I've heard numerous different claims such as:
  • Factory (Making what is never said)
  • Power station
    • Power substation
  • Brewery (!)
  • Water pump / treatment station
    • Sewer station (Whatever that is)
  • Refinery

however noone's been able to cite an authoritative source. As such I'm going to change it to "industrial building" after I commit this edit. 68.39.174.238 00:22, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

This page states that it was filmed in the basement of Sun City - it sounds outlandish, but there's a fair amount of detail: -Ashley Pomeroy 23:18, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
"Interestingly enough this craptacular movie was filmed in my native South Africa in the mid-1980s when Apartheid was at its height. Or make that, technically filmed in South Africa. You see it was filmed in one of the apartheid state’s controversial so-called “homelands” – artificially created countries in which Blacks were supposed to live while actually working in South Africa itself. This particular country was called Bophuthatswana, and it was incorporated back into South Africa following a popular rebellion and coup (noted for the futile interference by a small White neo-fascist group to prop it up).
"Ironically Bophuthatswana was a popular destination for South African Whites because of Sun City, a huge gambling resort (where Space Mutiny was filmed). You see, gambling itself was banned in puritan South Africa itself. Bizarrely the spaceship in the movie is called the “Southern Sun”, which – if memory serves me correctly – was also the name of a hotel resort owned by the same group.
"Filmed in Sun City’s huge basement, Space Mutiny is hilariously bad and the MST3K running comments during it are brilliantly funny. Definitely the best episode of the bunch and a perennial favourite of mine which I have seen several times. (Sci-fi fans will note that old Battlestar Galactica stock footage is used verbatim instead of any original special effects!)" (no explicit credit, but presumably James O'Ehley)

Budget: $599 USD?[edit]

Is that just PS3-related vandalism? I find it hard to believe that even this movie could be done for that much. 153.42.168.136 16:36, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Wrong David Winters[edit]

The link for the director goes to the page for a Scottish football player. Does this David Winters even have a page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.236.157.82 (talk) 04:30, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I highly doubt it, but I'll change it to David Winters (director). 68.39.174.238 (talk) 01:13, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Correction, that page is taken by an American director! It goes to a disambiguation page now, so that's good. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 01:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
David Winters (choreographer) is the director of this film. This fact is confirmed by the many authoritative citations on his page. Although not specifically for this movie, but any one of them. in a very odd coincidence, I know both Mike Nelson, as well as Winters. Admittedly, its been since before mst3k since I have seen Nelson. Due to the multiple careers, and over enthusiasm of various editors. Winters has had numoerous pages started and deleted under various names. Since he began his career as a dancer, then choreographer, then producer director, I decided the choreographer was the best over all disambiguation description. I did not know winters until I had started the article, and by chance found the real him on face book, and I have since gathered a lot of information about him. In my ongoing project of him, I stumbled upon this article. I came to this page to discuss the films notability or not. I feel it fits as notable because of the time lag of release, and its inclusion on mst3k. Not unlike Ed Wood films are considered notable. As discussed in the notability guideline, it does not mean popular or even good. --K3vin (talk) 07:09, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

ref tags and notability tag[edit]

I am not the creator of this article and as such, am removing the notability and ref tags. I have in good faith added many cites which assert contentions. It is my opinion that MST3000 is a major television show as such this film's inclusion in the MST3k episode guide confirms notability. Furthermore that it was released as part of an MST3k box set is the "b-movie" equivelant of being in the Criterion Collection. Therefore, in good faith as a contrinuting editor to this page, I am removing the notability tag.

Poster[edit]

Why was the old poster replaced with this new one? I note that many other old B movies have their original posters (EG. Manos and Monster A-Go Go). 68.39.174.238 (talk) 00:59, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

They both can be up. I am not sure if there is a policy, but I know I prefer the current DVD cover to aid in recognition of the product as seen on shelves. In my scenario, someone would see a b film for sale and then look it up here, recognize the dvd cover. I think a good argument could be made for having both. I am pretty sure, without checking, that I just commented out the old poster when I updated the dvd cover. Log in create an account, and adjust the page as you see fit. This is a doti first ask question later type of place (I hope). --K3vin (talk) 04:35, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia circa 1997[edit]

It doesn't really belong in the article - until it becomes e.g. "Space Mutiny (MST3K Treatment)" - but one of the host sketches essentially predicts Wikipedia itself, several years in advance. It begins with the cast mocking their out-of-date set of encyclopaedias, at which point the male star produces a new set. "Okay, you bellyachers, I've got you a brand, spankin' new set of encyclopaedias, each page with an internet uplink so you can constantly update 'em" / "Man, this is incredibly up-to-date!" / "Wow, twenty-seven pages on Gwen Stefani alone!" -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 16:17, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

I do remember that. "Fairly stable veteran of the Great War", "Charming theory" and "Congreff"! 76.117.247.55 (talk) 04:39, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Plagiarism controversies category[edit]

Nothing about any plagiarism controversy in the article, just some reused Battlestar Galactica footage. Removing the category. MartinSFSA (talk) 08:24, 4 March 2011 (UTC)