Talk:St. Mary's Hostel (Alice Springs)

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Street address

@Aliceinthealice:, Assuming that you live in Alice Springs, can you advise a street address for the hostel so I can determine some coordinates? Please reply here. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 02:17, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Cowdy001: I do live in Alice Springs :) The address is: St Marys Village, 6768 Stuart Highway, Alice Springs NT 0870 The closest other road is Percy Court: http://www.ntlis.nt.gov.au/placenames/view.jsp?id=7488 (it is now St Mary's Family Services: https://www.whitepages.com.au/st-marys-family-services-10722804/alice-springs-nt-10722797B) THANK YOU!

@Aliceinthealice:, Thanks for the links. However, the link for St Mary's Family Services has a map which shows it to be located in the suburb of Alice Springs on the Stuart Highway just south of the intersection with Whittaker Street. "Google Maps Streetview" shows this part of Alice Springs be occupied by relatively new buildings which are not likely to have been there in the 1950s when the Robert Czakó Mural was completed. Whereas the link re Percy Court indicates that the court is in the suburb of Kilgariff. The following link advises that "In 1946, Father Percy’s successor, Father Kenneth Leslie, established St Mary’s about 5 kilometers south of Alice Springs" which supports the Hostel being in Kilgariff - A brief history of the Anglican Church of Alice Springs. "Google Maps Streetview" shows the building stock to both the north and south of Percy Court to be relatively new. This situation suggests that the original hostel has been demolished and that the "St Mary's Chapel" name have been given to a new premises presumably located in the suburb of Alice Springs. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 03:37, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Cowdy001: Hi... this is confusing and I'm sorry its messy.

Kilgariff was established in 2013 and it may be the offical suburb for this area. https://www.ntlis.nt.gov.au/placenames/view.jsp?id=24491 St Marys is just south of 'Old Timer's' and are the older buildings closer to the hill and the others are, yes, newer. A lot of the buildings in the older part are not original to St. Mary's and I am not sure how many remain apart from the Chapel (which holds the Robert Czako Mural. The location, just south of Old Timer's is stated in this article: https://www.alicespringsnews.com.au/keywords/st-marys-chapel/

I am sorry if this doesn't clear things up.

@Aliceinthealice:, Thanks for the link to the Alice Springs News which was not working yesterday! Comparing both the Compiled plan for the suburb of Kilgariff and Google Maps, I looked at what occupies the land along the Stuart Highway to see what “situated south of the Old Timers”. “Old Timers” occupies a parcel of land bounded to the south by Morgan Street. On the south side of Morgan Street is the town camp of Ilyiperenye which itself is bounded to the south by Mount Blatherskite (which occupies NT Portion 950, which you described as "the hill" and which I noticed is not listed in the NT Place Names Register). Searching online, I found that St Mary’s was originally named as Mount Blatherskite Hostel, i.e. Find & Connect - Mount Blatherskite Hostel (1946 - 1947) and Mount Blatherskite Hostel. Therefore, I would think that the parcel of land to the immediate south of the mountain (sic) is where St. Mary’s is located. Can you have look at Google Maps and see if you concur with me? Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 06:50, 31 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]