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Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina (talk · contribs) 02:01, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Hey, I'm going to be reviewing this article. Expect comments later in the week. Some Dude From North Carolinawanna talk? 02:01, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Infobox and lead
[edit]- Editor Mary Jo Markey is credited first in the poster so they should be credited first in the infobox.
- Is the mention of the $258.6 million net budget necessary?
- Done removed Chompy Ace 06:33, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- Link the Star Wars: The Force Awakens (soundtrack) in the sentence containing the phrase "returned to compose the score"
- Fix the following redirect: "[[List of highest-grossing films in Canada and the United States|highest-grossing film in North America]]" → ""[[List of highest-grossing films in the United States and Canada|highest-grossing film in North America]]""
- Done, also changed wording per WP:FILMBOXOFFICE Chompy Ace 06:33, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- "third-highest-grossing film at the time of the release" → "third-highest-grossing film at the time of its release"
- "The film received five nominations" → "The film received numerous accolades, including five nominations"
Plot
[edit]- This section is 679 words, so there's no problems with WP:FILMPLOT.
- Already done Chompy Ace 07:13, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Cast
[edit]- This archive does not mention any description of any character.
- Done relocated as in Avengers: Endgame#Cast Chompy Ace 06:39, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- The reference after "don't change…" isn't working.
- Fixed now marked as dead Chompy Ace 06:39, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- Try changing all uses of "..." in this section and in others to "[...]" as it's more visually pleasing.
Done Chompy Ace 09:25, 31 January 2021 (UTC)- This hasn't been changed.
- Done all uses now [...] Chompy Ace 20:38, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- This hasn't been changed.
- "Han does not" → "[Han] does not"
- "Some things don't change…" → "Some things don't change."
- "a fairy tale…" → "a fairy tale."
- The reference after "more broken hearted" isn't working.
- Fixed now marked as dead Chompy Ace 06:54, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- "He's been taught about [Luke]" → "He's been taught about Luke Skywalker"
- The reference after "suggest things" isn't working.
- Fixed now marked as dead Chompy Ace 06:54, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- Any reason why the description for Lor San Tekka isn't formatted the same way as the other characters?
- Already done per consistency with MCU films to have their formatting, in that case do not have quotations or notes. Examples are Black Widow (2021 film)#Cast and Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings#Cast. Chompy Ace 06:41, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- I couldn't find any mentions of Hayden Christensen or Ian McDiarmid in this reference or this one.
- Done removed Chompy Ace 06:58, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- The reference after "Vocal Consultants" isn't working.
- Fixed now marked as dead Chompy Ace 06:58, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- The reference after "Statura, an admiral in the Resistance" isn't working.
- Fixed now marked as dead Chompy Ace 06:58, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- The second reference after "dealer on Jakku" isn't working.
- Fixed now marked as dead Chompy Ace 06:59, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- Kiran Shah isn't mentioned in this citation.
- Done added reference pre-existed from the BFI Chompy Ace 07:00, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- Move the references after "Thomas Brodie-Sangster and Kate Fleetwood" to the end of the sentence they're in.
- "cameo as stormtroopers" → "cameo as stormtroopers"
- The second reference after "cameo as stormtroopers" isn't working.
- Fixed now marked as dead Chompy Ace 07:05, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- The reference after "Resistance officer" isn't working.
- Fixed now marked as dead Chompy Ace 07:05, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- The reference after "Captain Cypress" isn't working.
- Fixed now marked as dead Chompy Ace 07:05, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- "Additionally, minor roles appear in the film including: Crystal Clarke, Pip Andersen,[1] Christina Chong,[1] Miltos Yerolemou,[1] Amybeth Hargreaves,[1] Leanne Best,[1] Judah Friedlander,[1] and Kevin Smith.[1]" → "Additionally, Crystal Clarke, Pip Andersen,[1] Christina Chong,[1] Miltos Yerolemou,[1] Amybeth Hargreaves,[1] Leanne Best,[1] Judah Friedlander,[1] and Kevin Smith appear in minor roles.[1]"
- The reference after "and musicians" isn't working.
- Already done removed per Special:Diff/1003881307 Chompy Ace 07:12, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Production
[edit]Development
[edit]- Are the four references after "The Force Awakens' first screenplay was written by Michael Arndt" all needed? Seems like it falls under WP:OVERLINK.
- Done now 1 reference Chompy Ace 02:17, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- It feels like there's a rough transition between George Lucas and Luke Skywalker, so I would link Luke Skywalker and put his name in full the first time he's mentioned.
- "Original Trilogy" → "original trilogy"
- I couldn't find Ben Affleck in this reference.
- Done removed Chompy Ace 02:17, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- J. J. Abrams didn't say he "[returned] to the roots of the first Star Wars film", he said he went back to the roots of the first films". Not the first film, the first films.
- "studying languages such as Hindi and Gujarati" → "studying various languages, such as Hindi and Gujarati".
- Link The Last Jedi.
Pre-production
[edit]- Since its still about the British: "the film industry" → "its film industry"
- "Maryann Brandon and Mary Jo Markey" → "Mary Jo Markey and Maryann Brandon" per consistency with the credits
- Why is Daniel Mindel mentioned twice?
- Done reduced to last name Chompy Ace 02:31, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Casting
[edit]- Done removed Ireland Chompy Ace 05:45, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Is the image necessary if you can't see a single person?
- Done moved image at the Cast section (similar to Avengers: Age of Ultron#Cast) Chompy Ace 06:20, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- The claim that "Casting began around August 2013" needs a reference.
- Done removed Chompy Ace 06:20, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Link and archive this reference to the citation after "the script by Kasdan and Abrams".
- Reference after "Frida Gustavsson" is dead.
- Fixed marked as dead Chompy Ace 06:20, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- "into April. In April" → "into April. That same month,"
- As he was already mentioned in this section: "Hamill, Serkis, Oscar Isaac" → "Hamill, Serkis, Isaac"
- The sentence "The announcement was originally planned for May 4, but was announced early for fear of media leaks" needs a reference.
- Done removed Chompy Ace 06:20, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Link Gwendoline Christie.
- The reference after "to accommodate him" is dead.
- Fixed marked as dead Chompy Ace 06:20, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Filming
[edit]- The reference after "65 mm IMAX format" is dead.
- Fixed marked as dead Chompy Ace 21:53, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Don't link "selfie" per WP:OVERLINK.
- Some long captions have periods, some don't. Try to be consistent here, and in the rest of the article.
- Done, as in Avengers: Age of Ultron, with every image's captions do not have a period Chompy Ace 21:53, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Link Millennium Falcon.
Post-production
[edit]- Mark the reference after "Disney Research" with "|url-access=subscription"
- "as 124–125 minutes" → "as 124 minutes"
- "nothing to do there of value, except to be sitting around" → "nothing to do there of value [...] So we ended up leaving those things out."
Music
[edit]- Is the entire quote after "in ways that" necessary. Try making it shorter.
- Link Culver City.
- The two references after "remainder of the recordings" mention LA, so maybe mention that in the article as well.
- A reference is needed for Williams saying recording sessions were "very luxurious".
- Done removed Chompy Ace 21:55, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- The following sentences also need references for verification: "The score was recorded by the Hollywood Studio Symphony, a freelance orchestra, with sessions continuing on and off over that five-month period. The 90-piece orchestra recorded 175 minutes of music, although nearly an hour of that was discarded, modified, or rerecorded as Abrams reedited the film. Williams' theme for Snoke was recorded by a 24-voice men's chorus."
- Done for adding a reference, Partly done for rewording a copied text within the reference Chompy Ace 21:55, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Release
[edit]- "(such as Italy and France, releasing it on a Wednesday)" → "(such as Italy and France)"
- Remove "(releasing on a Thursday)".
- Couldn't find "3D and IMAX 3D" in this reference.
- Fixed changed reference Chompy Ace 23:07, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Where did "4,134 theaters" come from?
- Done added reference Chompy Ace 23:07, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Why is information about the title in this section? Seems like something that would go in #Post-production.
- Done moved Chompy Ace 23:07, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Consistency: "ten thousand" → "10,000"
- "In total it sold over $50 million in pre-sales breaking the record." → "In total, it sold over $50 million in pre-sales, breaking the record."
- Mark the reference after "main titles" with "url-access=subscription".
- A reference is needed for the claim that "Ultimately, Disney's logo was largely absent from the film's marketing—but nonetheless, appeared on merchandise and the startup sequences of Star Wars smartphone games".
- Done removed Chompy Ace 23:07, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Marketing
[edit]- Sort of like in The Social Network article, make this subsection its own section in between #Music and #Release.
- The reference after "the significance of the new characters" is dead.
- Fixed marked as dead Chompy Ace 06:12, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- In the first paragraph, link The Hollywood Reporter and The Guardian.
- The reference after "several characters" is dead. Additionally, the archive isn't working.
- The second teaser being watched 88 million times broke which record?
- Done removed records Chompy Ace 06:12, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- "The event was broadcast live". If you are referring to the trailer just say "The trailer" or "The teaser".
- Done removed Chompy Ace 06:12, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- "At the 2015 San Diego Comic-Con International" → "At the 2015 San Diego Comic-Con International"
- A reference is needed for the claim that the third trailer "debuted during the halftime break of Monday Night Football, before being released online".
- Done added Chompy Ace 06:12, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- "since France is one of the first countries" → "since France was one of the first countries"
Tie-in literature and merchandise
[edit]- "with releases from multiple publishers starting in late 2015" → "with were released by multiple publishers starting in late 2015"
- Mark the reference after "until January 2016" as "url-access=subscription"
- Since this reference specifically focuses on the retailer: "Many retailers were unable to meet demand for Star Wars products" → "Many retailers, such as Toys "R" Us", were unable to meet demand for Star Wars products due to the event".
- Sorry, I suggested a sentence with a typo: "with were released by multiple publishers starting in late 2015" → "which were released by multiple publishers starting in late 2015"
Video games
[edit]- Can this section be changed to just prose instead of a list of games? The current format seems weird compared to the rest of the article.
- Done converted to prose Chompy Ace 07:33, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Since they're short, combine both paragraphs into one.
Home media
[edit]- The sentence "The home media release contains additional footage" seems short, and the reference being used contains more than just that.
- Done expanded Chompy Ace 07:41, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- "by Abrams" → "by director J. J. Abrams"
Reception
[edit]Box office
[edit]- The first reference being used says the film made "$936.6 million" in the US and Canada. Box Mojo is the one saying "$936.7 million", so I would just cite that.
- I couldn't find "110 million tickets" in this reference, and it's already covered at the end of the sentence with this.
- The reference after "($128 million)" is dead.
- Fixed marked as dead Chompy Ace 00:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Is the claim that the film had "the most tickets sold by any film in the United States and Canada since Titanic (1997) ($128 million)" actually covered here?
- Done removed Chompy Ace 00:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Commercial analysis
[edit]- No mention of "4,134 theaters" here.
- Fixed added pre-existing reference Chompy Ace 00:13, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- The first and third references after "$175–250 million" are from December, so change "In November" to "Months prior to the film's release"
- "that the film will be the first" → "that the film would be the first"
- Done removed Chompy Ace 00:10, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- I couldn't find any mention of $3 billion in this reference.
- Done removed Chompy Ace 00:10, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- The second reference after "Avatar's global gross" is dead.
Fixed marked as dead Chompy Ace 00:10, 4 February 2021 (UTC)- I said the second one was dead, not the first.
- "analysts feel that it lacked the novelty factor; they also cite" → "analysts felt that it lacked the novelty factor; they also cited"
- "previously done. Films do not play in overseas theaters as long as they did back when Avatar was released" → "previously done, and for films not playing in overseas theaters as long as they did back when Avatar was released"
- "Mike Fleming of Deadline.com" → "Mike Fleming of Deadline Hollywood"
- The following changes are needed because the quote is off: "the net profit to Disney an astounding $923M, and the Cash on Cash Return twice that of any other film [released in 2016], at 2.31" → "the net profit to Disney was an astounding $780.11M, and the Cash on Cash Return was twice that of any other film [released in 2016], at 2.00."
- "when Avatar was released" → "when Avatar was released"
United States and Canada
[edit]- Replaced reference with Deadline Hollywood Chompy Ace 21:01, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- I also couldn't find "$62.1 million" here.
- Done removed Chompy Ace 21:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- "$247,966,675" is really specific, and it's not in this source. "$59,982 per theater (or $17,220 per screen)" is also not there.
- Done removed "59,982 per theater (or $17,220 per screen)" claim, Replaced reference with The Numbers Chompy Ace 21:15, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- "record holder(s)" → "record holders"
- The reference after "in its original run" is dead.
- Couldn't find "$190.8 million" or "$63.6 million per day" here. I also couldn't find "The opening-weekend audience was evenly split among those under and over the age of 25, with 58% of the audience male, 71% adults, 20% families, and 9% teenagers" in the reference.
- Done removed Chompy Ace 21:21, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Add a website parameter to the reference after "biggest single- and opening-day record".
Other territories
[edit]- Add a comma after December 16, 2015.
- Distribute the references after "16 other countries".
- This reference says the film made $14.4 million in the UK, not $14.3 million.
- I couldn't find "Mexico ($3.4 million)" or "Italy ($3.1 million)" here. Additionally, the reference says Japan made $3 million, not $3.1M.
- Where did "72 markets" come from?
- Done removed Chompy Ace 02:17, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- "United Kingdom, Ireland and Malta ($50.6 million)" → "United Kingdom ($50.6 million)" per this source.
- Shouldn't the sentence that starts with "Revenues in the film's second weekend decreased by only 39.8% in the United States and Canada" be in #United_States_and_Canada?
Done Chompy Ace 02:17, 5 February 2021 (UTC)- This wasn't done.
- Done moved Chompy Ace 21:12, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- This wasn't done.
- "$70 million in 10 days" → "$70 million in 11 days"
Critical response
[edit]- Could bullet points be added to the cite bundle after "positive reviews from critics"?
- Update RT.
- "women, under-25s and under-18s" → "women, and people under the ages of 25 and 18"
- In this section, try removing some quotes, paraphrasing, and better categorizing (making paragraphs that talk about the same thing) using WP:RECEPTION.
Accolades
[edit]- The two references after "2016 Critics' Choice Awards" don't mention The Force Awakens.
- Replaced both refs to a sole ref The Hollywood Reporter, which mentions the film Chompy Ace 21:22, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Can a reference be added for The Force Awakens being "the most nominated film in Saturn Award history"?
- Done removed claim and reworded sentence Chompy Ace 21:39, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- "Best Actor for Ford" → "Best Actor for Harrison Ford"
- "Best Supporting Actor for Driver" → "Best Supporting Actor for Adam Driver"
- Can a reference be added for the last part of the claim that "The Force Awakens received eleven nominations at the MTV Movie Awards, the most for the ceremony"?
- Replaced both refs to a sole ref MTV, so it could remain the "received eleven nominations at the MTV Movie Awards" sentence; Fixed sentence, by removing "the most for the ceremony" Chompy Ace 21:35, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Sequels
[edit]The Last Jedi
[edit]- Link Rian Johnson.
- "he would direct" → "he would write and direct"
- Can you list the names in full, rather than just their last names?
- Done, and added links Chompy Ace 23:40, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
The Rise of Skywalker
[edit]- "Abrams" → "J. J. Abrams"
- A reference is needed for "The Rise of Skywalker was released on December 20, 2019"
- Link original trilogy.
- Link prequel trilogies
- Mark Hamill and Gwendoline Christie aren't mentioned in this reference, so I suggest adding another.
- Fixed added reference for Hamill claim and Christie does not appear, which I removed her due to Phasma's death in The Last Jedi (via The Rise of Skywalker: The Visual Dictionary) Chompy Ace 23:42, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
References
[edit]- The archive link for the reference after "preexisting audio from The Empire Strikes Back" isn't working. Try archiving it with this.
- Done removed reference per WP:BI Chompy Ace 09:24, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- Mark all references to the Los Angeles Times as "url-access=limited".
- Mark all references to Forbes as "url-access=limited".
- Mark all references to Vulture as "url-access=limited".
- The following should not be in italics:
- The following should be in italics using "|website=":
- MakingStarWars.net
- TheWrap
- Dork Side of the Force
- Done for all Chompy Ace 00:38, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Some uses of StarWars.com are linked, in all lowercase, or in another form. Try to be consistent.
- Done all uses use StarWars.com and are all linked Chompy Ace 01:58, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Link Dork Side of the Force to FanSided.
- Link ComingSoon.net.
- Link mySA
- CNN Money → CNN Business
- Link Motherboard (website) to Motherboard
- The second reference after "deceased Darth Vader" is dead.
- The second reference after "a tavern-dweller in Maz Kanata's castle" is dead.
- The second reference after "a lieutenant in the Resistance" is dead.
- The only reference after "Judah Friedlander" is dead.
- The reference after "Kevin Smith appear in minor roles" is dead.
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