Talk:Stephen Juba

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Grounds for divorce

I believe the statement on the page about why Juba's first marriage ended in divorce should be removed.

First of all, the source cited is a court file, which probably violates WP:PRIMARY.

Secondly, even if the court file exists and does say what the article says it does, the information may not be true. In those days, there was no such thing as ending a marriage due to "irreconcilable differences." Grounds for divorce had to be proven in court. Since adultery was grounds for divorce everywhere, the easiest way to get a divorce was for the petitioner to discover the respondent at a motel with another party. This does not mean any actual adultery occurred; the other party was often a straw person who worked for the divorce lawyer and was there for the purpose of establishing grounds for divorce.

Thirdly, even if the information in the court file is true, it could be held to be defamatory of the other woman, who was never a public figure like Juba.

I post this here for discussion but have not made the edits yet. Bellczar (talk) 03:01, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]