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Including "guitar" in the Artistry section

Curious to know if anyone thinks his guitar-playing ability should be mentioned now. He started learning in 2020, went live with it quite a few times, played it in his music video for Snooze, it's in the documentary iirc, and he played it for the entirety of the D-Day tour. I'm unsure whether other editors believe it's enough to make the instrument synonymous with his artist persona now or not. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 19:21, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Additional context

Shouldn't additional context abt Suga's DUI be included with what's currently on the page? He fell while trying to park his scooter at his own home/in front of his own house, for one, not while riding it. Two, the police officer was already near/at his house, saw him lying on the ground after he fell, and made him take a breathalyser. Also, mention should be made of what SK's allowed BAC level is and that they have a law(s) for operating those kinds of scooters, to better explain why he was fined/awarded a DUI, and the military's stance on the situation, that he won't be penalized because he was drinking in his off time/outside of working hours. I can't remember if that's everything since there's been such an influx of articles about the whole thing, making it hard to keep up. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 13:51, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More content should be provided. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 16:47, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Carlobunnie: We definitely need more context. On top of what you mentioned, he was fully cooperative and didn't harm anyone or anything, so that will result in a lighter sentence. Although he and the company have declared that his license was revoked, one source indicates that according to the police, that hasn't happened yet. Another source refers to a "scooter license" instead of just "license", I'm not sure if there's a difference. It's also mentioned that if revoked, the offender would be unable to re-obtain a license for one year. But I have no idea how the SK law works in this specific situation. Like you said, the influx of news (much of it sensationalist or purposely misleading for clicks) has made it difficult to determine the current situation. - Ïvana (talk) 21:11, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some helpful links pertaining to the Road Traffic Act.

https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20210511000713
https://www.lawnorder.go.kr/portal/resources/download/booklet/traffic_crime_english.pdf
https://elaw.klri.re.kr/eng_service/lawView.do?hseq=64085&lang=ENG (English translated version; refer to Article 2.19, 44, 93)
https://www.law.go.kr/LSW/LsiJoLinkP.do?docType=JO&lsNm=%EB%8F%84%EB%A1%9C%EA%B5%90%ED%86%B5%EB%B2%95&joNo=000200000&languageType=KO&paras=1# (Korean original version; refer to 제2.19조, 제44조, 제93조)

— Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 08:14, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Paper9oll I think the article relies a bit too much on speculative news sources right now. Especially the part that he had 0.227 in BAC level. In many countries BrAC tests cannot solely qualify for severe DUI since breath levels are not fully indicative on BAC levels. Since the police did not follow up with blood test, the only known fact is that he had over 0.08% in BAC level...making it a misdemeanor and not a felony. My recommendation is to remove the part taken from DongA Ilbo at the moment and wait for the outcome of the police investigation. 213.89.134.201 (talk) 21:24, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@213.89.134.201 Your removal request isn't for me to answer on as I'm not the editor who added it, please approach the editor who added the content and/or establish consensus in this talk page for the content removal. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 05:02, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Replaced sources and removed content based on unverified claims. I also added the statement by the military. If it doesn't come directly from any of the parties involved then it is just WP:SPECULATION. The police hasn't said anything about his BAC level, only that it was higher than 0.08% which is grounds for his license to be revoked. - Ïvana (talk) 13:40, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.parismatch.com/people/desinformation-pressions-que-se-passe-t-il-avec-suga-de-bts-240859?at_medium=Fan+Page&at_campaign=Twitter+&at_creation=Paris+Match

Hello, please find an article written by a french journalist. I hope it will make the situation clearer as wikipedia is not a sensational newspaper. Have a very nice day 90.26.104.28 (talk) 10:31, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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remove the whole DUI allegation section. Its nothing but diffamation ProtectBTS (talk) 09:26, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: the section is well referenced with reliable sources. If you have references to the contrary, then please cite them. Wikishovel (talk) 09:51, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Everything in the DUI section is well sourced and presented in a neutral manner based on reliable information. Sorry it sounds like you WP:JUSTDONTLIKEIT RachelTensions (talk) 13:30, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]