Talk:TSC Bačka Topola

WP:NPOV

The section title "The greatest club team of all time" clearly violates WP:NPOV. Please address this. — Jkudlick ^tc_s 08:11, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

My reverts

Recently an IP has dedicated time and work to improve this article, however, I can´t escape the fact that I find his changes not much usefull. Mostly, eliminate quite a bit dedicated to the history and the past, and replaces it with focus on current events. Wikipedia:RECENTISM I think deals quite well with it. This is my revert of his changes. It may feel a bit personal for me because it was me who created the article over 8 years ago at a time when the club was swimming in deep watters of lower leagues and it was famous because of the few periods from the past when they archived solid results, had quality players, and gained some reputation as a tough local club. It was also known for a strong presence of the Hungarian minority in Serbia. Yugoslavia was sizeable country which included many good clubs, and Bačka Topola was at time ammong the best second league clubs without an article.

They had an official website which was quite different than the one from today, the one back then included all generations and data from all seasons. Iy focused entirelly in their history. It was noticeable trough the old website that club supporters were speacially proud of feeling that despite being a small community, their football club mantained a tradition of regularelly producing competitive generations feared and respected by much bigger clubs. Many of their players were either local and archived great careers, or were players from bigger clubs which would be sent to Bačka Topola usually during their early careers, to mature and grow as players. Bačka Topola had a great reputation of forming a great character of players, both inside and outside the pitch.

It is with this mindset which I already knew as a well informed editor of Yugoslav football and which was also confirmed by the realiable sources, that I wanted the article to be focused on. So, by having such a background, it is no surprise that in recent years, already after the article was created, the club ended being choused to receve investment. Simultaneously both the team and the infrastructure were improved, and it didn´t took long for the sporting results to come. While during previous century the club enjoyed sucess in the Yugoslav Second League, this time the club archived promotion to the Serbian SuperLiga, the national top-tier. While I guess newer generations live fully the ethusiasm of this most recent archivement, I would not dismiss the long and rich path the club went trough to get here, specially, because it is all related and today´s events are the outcome of the entire story.

I opposed the removal of much of the historical content, and the replacement with inclusion of wording such as giving full weight of recent investment creating sort of a new story. It is a fact that the investment was crucial, but it is also a fact that the investment came because of what that club meant and had archived already.

Now, speaking about the edits themselves. I see much of my initial text was left unsourced, obviously because the old website was closed, and others probably as well, its been 8 since then, and editors usually just delete links to closed websites, and slowly the text falls into a process of "Sourced→death source→unsourced".

I oppose to the removal of the list of club names troughout time. Many countries have this lists for their clubs, I see them very usefull specially because it is important to know the official club name at specific time, specially if one is digging old sources.

Another thing is the removal of details from the history section. I wrote exactly what sources said, and old website was very detailed on that. From what I see the IP refferes in one of his edits to the nowadays official website which doesnt contradict the old one in anything, just oversimplifies some periods.

And my last issue, is the most controversial, is the listing of the AIK Bačka Topola squads that terrorised the entire Yugoslav Second league during the early 1980s and which I understandably ucknolledge it is too much detail, but my intention was to create many of those player articles with time. Those were the generations that made AIK Bačka Topola gain extremelly good reputation, and its significance for the club is big, I would appreciate sugestions specially from WP:FOOTY members of how to remove those lists from the article but keep the info somehow? FkpCascais (talk) 02:08, 25 July 2019 (UTC)