Talk:Tancredo Neves
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[edit]Can anyone tell me if this is true? "During the Presidential campaign, he said if he got 500 votes from his party, not even God would remove him from Presidency. Sure he got the votes, but he got sick a day before being made President, then he died." Thanks
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I'm researching the same question, because I often get a chain of emails from friends pointing that. If you think about it: he was "the way out of the authoritarian regime into what he had called a "New Republic" (Nova República). His death caused an outpouring of national grief."
What was the whole true scenario of his death¿?
Did he really said that¿?
On the other hand,.:
Would not God protect such a guy like that? If he died for saying that, Is God jealous about someone doing the "Good Work" that needs to be done? Or Are there some God supporters/believers/worshipers so intolerant, compared to extremists and terrorist so that they could dare to kill such a man?
I found this article in the NY times: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9405E4DC1238F937A15754C0A963948260
BRAZILIANS DEBATE DOCTORS' ROLE IN DEATH OF NEVES
By ALAN RIDING, SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES Published: July 24, 1985
Three months after the funeral of Brazil's President-elect, Tancredo Neves, his family has renewed a debate over whether mistakes by two different medical teams contributed to the bacterial blood infection that eventually killed him.
Rumors of a misdiagnosis, poorly executed surgery and squabbles among doctors were rife as Mr. Neves, 75 years old, underwent seven operations during his 38 days in hospitals, first in Brasilia and then in Sao Paulo. But after his death April 21, the controversy seemed to be forgotten.
Now, however, the President-elect's brother, Jorge, and his son, Tancredo Augusto, have charged that he was a victim of the incompetence and vanity of his doctors. They said this view was shared by his sister, Esther, and his wife, Risoleta, who were with Mr. Neves through his hospitalization and have so far not spoken out in public.
Two long articles on the subject in the newsweekly Isto E also quoted Jorge Neves as suggesting that his brother might have contracted a planned infection, because, he asserted, minimal precautions to avoid an infection were overlooked. He added that on several occasions, people not belonging to the medical team were seen at the President-elect's bedside.
Medical Councils Assail Report
The Medical Councils of Brasilia, Sao Paulo and Brazil, which say they are investigating the Neves case, said in a joint statement, There is no evidence that the accusations and suspicions raised by the magazine Isto E have the least element of truth, and they can therefore be considered frivolous, imaginary and irresponsible.
The family testimonies, given first to Isto E and later repeated at a crowded news conference in Brasilia, have thrown new light on the confused events that began with Mr. Neves's sudden hospitalization on the night of March 14, just hours before he was scheduled to take office as Brazil's first civilian President in 21 years.
Tancredo Augusto Neves said, If I had known the Hospital de Base in Brasilia, I would never have allowed my father to be taken there, even if his life were at risk.
He said that before surgery began, the chief physician, Dr. Francisco Pinheiro da Rocha, had to return home to get his glasses, and that Mr. Neves was initially taken to the wrong operating room. He said his father later complained that they almost ripped off my finger when removing his wedding ring.
At Least 40 in Operating Room
The son said at least 40 people, including doctors, politicians and relatives, were crowded into the operating room. When Dr. Rocha announced that he had removed a diverticula, an inflamed portion of the intestine, rather than a malignant tumor, there was a round of applause, he said. I cannot affirm there was a mistake, the President-elect's son said, but there was total confusion.
Six days later, new surgery was necessary because of intestinal complications stemming from the first operation. Again, medical bulletins were optimistic, and on March 26, Mr. Neves was photographed with his doctors to reassure the public.
But his family now says he was placed in a dressing gown and taken to another part of the Hospital de Base to be photographed against his will, while his complaint that something has ruptured in here was at first ignored. A few hours later, however, he was found to be suffering from serious internal bleeding and was rushed to the more modern Hospital das Clinicas in Sao Paulo for new surgery.
'What a Mess They Made of Me'
What a mess they made of me in Brasilia, Mr. Neves is quoted as remarking to a longtime security aide when he arrived in Sao Paulo. This view was soon echoed in off-the-record remarks to reporters by the new chief surgeon, Dr. Henrique Walter Pinotti, who had flown to Brasilia to take part in the second corrective surgery.
Tancredo Augusto Neves recalled that Dr. Pinotti told him after the second operation that father would be able to assume office within four days.
In Sao Paulo, where five new operations took place in the next 27 days, Dr. Pinotti also continued to give upbeat assessments of Mr. Neves's condition despite growing skepticism in the Brazilian press.
The President-elect's son said the family was not equipped to carry out its own investigation, but he expressed hope that persistent doubts would be clarified. The line between incompetence and negligence is very thin, he said, but you can't try or condemn someone for incompetence. More Articles in Health >
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What does this mean?
[edit]"Their bid was not accepted." What does that mean? NCdave 04:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
March 15 to April 21, 1985
[edit]Since he was alive during that period, he'd be President of Brazil. Oath or no oath, his term began on March 15. GoodDay (talk) 20:58, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
translation
[edit]I am trying to translate from the portuguese version. Will be weird at the time, but I am working on more section as soon I have more time. Pedlvasconcellos (talk) 20:46, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Tancredo Neves
[edit]I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Tancredo Neves's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "ReferenceA":
- From Law: Sherif, Constitutions of Arab Countries, 158
- From François Mitterrand: France during the socialist years by Gino Raymond
- From Itamar Franco: A Squall At Carnival, JAMES BROOKE, Sunday, February 27, 1994
- From Portuguese Brazilian: Açorianos no Brasil, Vera Lúcia Maciel Barroso
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 19:00, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
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