Talk:The Larry Sanders Show
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I think this needs to be broken up into discrete sections and organized; as is, it seems more of a mish-mash. Also, a few areas (I'm thinking specifically of the Shandlin/Sanders comparisons) feel very Original Research. 184.108.40.206 08:49, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- 1 Problem on Season 4 Summary
- 2 Commonwealth Bias?
- 3 Too Review-y
- 4 Sarah Silverman among the cast and crew stars?
- 5 Building List of Episodes and Episode Guide
- 6 Character Profiles
- 7 Removing trivia section
- 8 Trivia
- 9 Influence
- 10 Appalling quality
- 11 Multi-Camera Setup
- 12 Wrong Cable Station Listed
Problem on Season 4 Summary
The episode "Hank's Sex Tape" did not involve his sex tape being "leaked to the internet." There were no internet sex tapes in 1995. That episode involved Phil giving the tape to a friend, that friend distributing copies, and then Artie and Phil trying to track them down. I made a correction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 05:56, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
Although I've corrected a few terms and other usages that are correct in Commonwealth English and not American English, there still seems to be a problem with non-U.S. bias in this article. (For instance, we Yanks *never* refer to it as "free-to-air" television; we always call it "broadcast" or "network TV," but I've already corrected this in the article.)
What stations/channels is "Larry Sanders" being rebroadcast on in the U.S.? And for that matter, what is happening with the DVD release of the show? I remember from 2004 on "The Tonight Show"'s fifitieth anniversary show, on which Garry Shandling was a guest, that he and Jay Leno mentioned that the whole series would soon be available on DVD--what's become of this?
- Does spelling matter? If it refers to non-US broadcasting, it could use the local terminology, no? MerriFunn (talk) 16:06, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm not saying the bias should be re-centered (or re-centred) on the U.S., just that the article should conform to Wikipedia's style requirements. Telestylo 07:40, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
This article reads like a very personal essay or column about the show rather than a summarizing encyclopedia article. One section, which I'm nixing, went like this:
An essential part of Shandling's comic approach is demonstrated in both shows: the absolute commitment to pursue your comedic goal regardless of how petty, childish, selfish-indulgent, or just plain stupid it may even make you, as an actor, seem. The series Seinfeld took pains to make its characters seem sympathetic no matter how low they would sink, but Shandling's ability to sacrifice himself so pitilessly is only equalled by Seinfeld c-creator Larry David on his series, Curb Your Enthusiasm.
Indeed, on The Larry Sanders Show sometimes it's hard to tell if Shandling is spoofing talk show hosts or spoofing himself spoofing talk show hosts, which makes it all the more engrossing. (The probable answer is that he's doing both at the same time.) Even the name encourages this ambiguity; obviously Larry is a version of Garry, but just to drive the point home and, in essence, make it very clear just how unclear the distinction between Shandling, the actor, and Sanders, the comic who himself 'plays' the role of a talk show host, is intended to be, consider the incredible similarity of those two names, Shandling and Sanders. They are in a sense just versions of each other--a detail surely intended by Shandling.
Thats just not encyclopedia stuff. That's fuel for a web blog or freelance television writing. --relaxathon 04:40, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Sarah Silverman among the cast and crew stars?
Why is Sarah Silverman listed under "Cast and characters"? She was in three episodes. It doesn't seem right. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gloryroad (talk • contribs) 04:27, 11 February 2007 (UTC).
Building List of Episodes and Episode Guide
I've managed to obtain a complete collection of episodes, and I plan to work on a complete list of episodes and page for each episode as my schedule allows. I've not done this before so I'm going to borrow templates from other parts of the site. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Annifridfour (talk • contribs) 07:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC).
This show is very character driven... should we included some brief character profiles? I'd do it, but my wife is suing me for about fourteen diferent things right now. Also, my son just got arrested in Texas for beating his children. My wife is such a fucking bitch. She looked at our internet histroy and found BigHooters.Com in there and yelled at me and called me a pervert. But anways, knowing character traits, like the fact that Hank is a suck up, or whatnot, would be helpful. <<< retard
Removing trivia section
As directed in Wikipedia:Avoid_trivia_sections, trivia sections should be avoided. As this one contains only a single obscure uncited fact, I'm moving it to here in case someone wants to cite it or move it to a natural place within the prose.
- In the British Channel 4 clip show The Ultimate Sitcom, it was implied that the group of mainly British comedians and comedy writers contributing to the clip show considered The Larry Sanders Show the 5th best sitcom ever, putting it ahead of other sitcoms such as The Office, Curb Your Enthusiasm and Cheers.
Straussian 13:04, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
The standard of writing throughout this article is shocking and way below the normal standard of Wikipedia. There are spelling, grammar and syntax errors everywhere, and it barely reads like English. I am not familiar enough with the show to do a proper edit without potentially affecting the content here, but it wouldn't hurt to chuck everything out and start afresh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 15:30, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, goodie. It isn't just me. I suspect anyone else who's come across it has the same problem I do; not only is it sloppy, but the tone is so non-encyclopedic that a complete rewrite is necessary... and we don't know it well enough to do it. Certainly there's *some* Wikipedian who's good on that front, who also knows the show well enough...? --Baylink@en.w —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 15:23, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
"Through it's six year run, the show had two catchphrases used in it's intire run, the most natable being Hey Now, a phrase Hank repeats in the opening credits of the fictional talk show, The Larry Sanders Show and when he grets someone. In one episode Hank says he inveted the word when he accidently said it to someone and liked it and decided to use it on the show. In 2007, TV Land ranked "Hey Now" as the 87th Best Television catch phrase. No Flipping, is a phrase Larry uses to go on commercial breaks that means not to get exited of what happend next during the show. The phrase is very popular in talk show and is sometimes used in various of talk shows. In the series finale, Flip the final sentance Larry said on the show was, "You May Flip Now", which is a referances to the catchphrase."
"Through" should read "Throughout". The following "words" are inexcusable mispellings: intire, natable, grets, inveted, accidently, exited, happend, sentance, referances. The catchphrases should be in quotes. This entire section is poorly written and should be deleted.
The Larry Sanders Show was shot with a multi-camera setup, not single-camera. Given the look and feel of the show it's an understandable mistake, and it's often erroneously referenced online as a single-camera show. However, it's mentioned on the DVDs that the show was actually multi-camera, and in 1997 and '98 it was nominated for outstanding MULTI-CAMERA editing Emmy awards. I've changed the article's tag from single to multi-camera, and provided a link to the show's IMDB "awards" page as a citation. VarlosZ (talk) 16:41, 11 January 2011 (UTC)