Talk:The Number of the Beast (album)

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Untitled[edit]

Is there any reason to use quotation marks around the list of track names? This isn't done, for example, in a list of articles in a journal, although it is when those article titles are cited in running text... Tkinias 04:54, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Reference needed[edit]

I call BS on the claim about the weird phenomena, which includes a car repair bill of 666.66. If no references are added, I say delete it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.199.100.92 (talk) 21:23, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

track name[edit]

hey, i stumbled on this http://www.kickedintheface.com/reviews/Iron_Maiden-Number_Of_The_Beast.htm any one know where the extra track came from? (thats right, NOTB has nine tracks here!)

Check below the track listing (here), you have your answer. — Prodigenous Zee - 11:21, 14 August 2006 (UTC)


The extra track "Total Eclipse" was originally a b-side on the single "Run to the Hills"

Life's Shadow ?[edit]

The trivia line :

The song "Hallowed Be Thy Name" contains several verses that were "borrowed" (without giving credit) from a song by Beckett, called "Life's Shadow", from their 1974 selftitled album. Later on, Iron Maiden would cover Beckett's song "A Rainbow's Gold" for their 1984 single "2 Minutes To Midnight". Iron Maiden manager Rod Smallwood was Beckett's agent before meeting Iron Maiden.

is kind of puzzling ... can't find the song anywhere and nothing proves the "borrowing" as explained here


did smith or harris write the words to the prisoner(or both?

Fair use rationale for Image:Iron Maiden - The Number Of The Beast.jpg[edit]

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Total Eclipse[edit]

According to http://www.ironmaiden.com/index.php?categoryid=22&p2_articleid=305 and everywhere else I have seen, the song Total Eclipse was not written by Paul Di'Anno, but by Harris/Murray/Burr. Please correct this if it is correct.

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Over 20 million?[edit]

If this has 'sold over 20 million albums worldwide' then why is it not included in the List of best-selling albums worldwide, where there is a section for sales of over 20 million? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.233.221 (talk) 17:47, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Album Art[edit]

I have this album, and it's album artwork is gray, not blue. Everywhere else I've seen on the net has grey artwork, so why is it blue here? is it the artwork for a limmited edition or something?Xanthic-Ztk (talk) 07:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

On that note, from what I can see, Eddie is puppeteering Satan, not hunting him as is mentioned in the article. Fudge-o (talk) 16:49, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Rod Smallwood has been quoted as saying that the original artwork was presented in grey, but once it went to the primitive 1980's printers, it came out blue. As part of the 1998 remasters, the artwork was corrected. All pre 1998 versions have the blue sky. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.12.120 (talk) 22:37, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

introduction[edit]

no mention of who the voice was in the introduction. it sounds like vincent price although no mention of it here or on the vincent price wiki. anyone able to confirm this?

Smokey7766 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smokey7766 (talkcontribs) 12:24, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


the name of the actor was Barry Clayton [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.146.171.216 (talk) 19:49, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Compositions by Bruce Dickinson[edit]

I have read that some of the songs on this album were jointly written by Bruce Dickinson, but for contractual reasons with his former band Samson he was not allowed to be credited. Does anyone know which songs they were? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.37.251 (talk) 10:29, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Dead external links to Allmusic website – January 2011[edit]

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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:The Number of the Beast (album)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: GreatOrangePumpkin (talk · contribs) 16:56, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Of course!

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
    The last part of the first sentence, there is something missing ahead "the US", maybe "in"
    And the second sentence also has the "in the US" at the end; maybe rephrase to remove repetition.
    "and their last with " - Their last what? His last appearance?
    ""new"" - why in quatation marks? If he debuted on this album, this should be mentioned in the lead
    "According to several interviews with Bruce Dickinson, he" - "he" is Harris?
    "song-writing" - this should be written together
    "having to give what he calls a "moral contribution", i.e. having an influence on particular tracks without giving enough creative input to earn a writing credit.[6]" - sounds like noun + ing. Abbreviations should be spelled out, or replaced with better words
    "an albums"
    "having to write an albums worth of songs almost entirely from scratch for the first time.[3]" - needs rephrasing
    B-side should be linked
    Quotation marks in quotes should be replaced with apostrophes
    "star struck" - what does that mean?
    "90's" should be "90s" per WP:DECADE
    "A Tribute to the Beast, Vol. 2 " should be italicized
    "Sebastian Bach" "Skid Row" and "Iced Earth" should be linked
    ""The Number of the Beast" quotation mark missing
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
    How reliable is
    [2]
    [3] (Firefox blocks this website)
    [4]
    Amazon? - remove; also you claim that all the information in the first section of "Appearance in media" is available in [5], which is totally incorrect
    Youtube? - remove; easily fails WP:V and WP:RS
    Myspace? - remove; similar situation as with Youtube.
    Many references have no publisher, accessdate, etc--♫GoP♫TCN 13:19, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Comment[edit]

Hi, I have addressed all the issues that have been outlined so far.--Nerdtrap (talk) 21:22, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Replaced unsuitable refs (although how an amazon link which details the soundtrack is unacceptable I don't know). Removed Uncle Howie records because I couldn't find a replacement. Also removed the part about Nick Tershay for the same reasons (although I would have thought that an interview with the man himself would have been fine, even if it was on Youtube!!!).--Nerdtrap (talk) 14:44, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Couple of comments[edit]

  • The Background, writing and recording section doesn't seem to contain much background information (if any at all). This seems a problem—it looks like a background section needs to be written from scratch, and then the current Background, writing and recording section be renamed simply as Writing and recording;
  • There is a discrepancy between the release dates given: is it 22 or 29 March 1982? According to this it's the latter.
  • The article could do with a couple of audio files.

Cheers and good luck with the GA. Jprw (talk) 13:23, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

there are a few errors with release dates and other figures on the Iron Maiden website- I have provided two literature sources to support the 22 March release. Sputnikmusic also states it was 22 not 29.

There is an audio file of Run to the Hills kicking around so I will add that--Nerdtrap (talk) 13:46, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:The Number of the Beast (album)/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Article requirements:

Green tickY All the start class criteria
Green tickY A completed infobox, including cover art and most technical details
Green tickY At least one section of prose (excluding the lead section)
Green tickY A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs
Green tickY A full list of personnel, including technical personnel and guest musicians
Green tickY Categorisation at least by artist and year
Green tickY A casual reader should learn something about the album.

Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:08, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Last edited at 22:08, 11 May 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 08:17, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Running time[edit]

Corrected running time of the album - 40:19 is correct. NOT 39 minutes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.183.224.114 (talk) 20:07, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

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