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editing with a pro=nuclear point of view
[edit]- In the wiki was mentioned that the nuclear waste is piling up the site, whether this is outside in the open air, or in a special building, this is still the case. And the references you give, those could be a lot more specific. Now I need to spent some hours to read it all, and 99,9% is not connected to the things you like to add.
- This wiki has a few people, that would like to rewrite it all, for pro-nuclear reasons. That has nothing to do with the neutral position of Wikipedia.
- Your accusations, they do not have any meaning or value.
- I do not read only media and anti-nuclear propaganda, but here there are a few people who like it the other way. I even worked as a scientist with isotopes. I have more knowledge than you ever can know.
- Whenever the wanted valves are installed, you will be able to mention it, it present the valve are not there, and the installation ? When will it be there ? These are quite expensive valves, the very reason why they are still not there.
- J.T.W.A.Cornelisse (talk) 11:07, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- Actually there is more waste at these plants than only the used nuclear fuel bars. There is a lot more, small stuff, and those were treated, chemical reactions occurred in the barrels, and the content was spilled. This was the reason why deMorgen had this item.
- J.T.W.A.Cornelisse (talk) 11:23, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Why should I discuss ? I tried that so long...
[edit]Mr MVvarial...
Whenever an addition is added, about the protests against the reactors, why is that not acceptable ?
The people living around the Belgium reactors are to their mind at risk. These reactors are outdated, a new director from French origin is appointed in Tihange, to improve the safety-culture at the plant... Should not this be unneeded in the first place.
You are just busy promoting nuclear power, is this in line with the principles of Wikipedia ?
best wishes
J.T.W.A.Cornelisse (talk) 10:20, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
- First of all you expect me to discuss every edit I make on these articles while you're not doing so yourself.
- I will and have respected your wish, I demand the same from you.
- As for your current edit in particular; the organisation claims 50 000 people no independent source has confirmed that.
- In fact the organisation itself expected 35 000 people and had to buy banners to fill up the gaps. Even with those banners the human chain was not complete.
- Second what Peer thinks is frankly not relevant for this article whatsoever.
- If you want to make an piece of the public unrest about these powerplants you can bundle a bunch of actions or news articles toghetter to illustrate negative media reporting on the plant.
- However as this is a neutral article one should also publish the counter arguments to these claims.
- For example the organisation in question demanded the closure of D3 en T2 in particular although all research shows these reactors form no danger.
- During the protest they demanded the closure of all plants worldwide and the expansion of renewables.
- Furthermore they refused to meet with the board of directors of the plant.
- MCvarial (talk) 11:13, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
- You are taking any edit away, without any discussion at all. With lots of arguments like: this newspaper is not good enough, whatever. You are not the owner of wikipedia?
- Neutral? You try to take away all information about the social protests against nuclear power. Is that neutral ?
- Information that is incomplete is not neutral at all.
- What do you have against these protesters, are they insane ? They were there. And even the plant is listening to them !
- Those reactors are old, the only reason they are still there, is the dependence of Belgium to nuclear power, it would be so expensive to built a new reactor, whenever possible at all.
- Why should I start a discussion, whenever I would like to add something to the wiki ? You are taking away anything I add. without any dscussion...
- Those reactors in Fukushima and Chernobyl were considered o so very "safe" until "something" happened. To ignore the fact that this could happen here too, is just an insult.
- Your vandalism is not appreciated, if you're not willing to have an adult discussion I will have to report you.
- You are using subjective arguments to argue on an objective topic.
- I'm giving you a very clear advise on how to proceed future editing yet you just continue vandalising the article.
- MCvarial (talk) 13:27, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
- I have left the objective, worthwhile content in your paragraph. Now tell me is this information even worth a paragraph?
- MCvarial (talk) 14:01, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
- Wie is hier de vandaal ? Hoe durf je zo hoog van de toren te blazen? Jij, die telkens de jouw ongevallige informatie weghaalt zonder enig overleg ? Die kranten die deugen niet toch ?
- Who is here the vandal ? How do you dear to call me this. While it is you, all that time deleting my edits, when you find the information not positive to nuclear power.
- The people around Tihange and Doel see all those troubles too, these old reactors keeping them alive will add to the pile of nuclear debris. And whenever there would be a more serious nuclear disaster, it would be impossible to live in a large area.
- Would the belgian government in a position to compensate for damage in full ?
- J.T.W.A.Cornelisse (talk) 14:35, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
- With every single post u make u show your true colors. You're simply a anti-nuclear crusader looking to vandalise any article regardless of objective truths.
- This is why u have no place on Wikipedia. A source of information that targets to be neutral. There's absolutely no evidence of trouble, nor the reactors being old.
- This is, and excuse my language, utter bullshit.
- MCvarial (talk) 14:40, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
- In wat je weglaat, blijkt des te meer je attitude: de mensen weigerden niet, maar vonden het tijdstip ongelukkig gekozen...
- In what is left out by you, we find your true attitude: the protesters did not refuseto talk, but they found the time not sutable chosen...
- J.T.W.A.Cornelisse (talk) 17:08, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
- So they did infact refuse.
- Time after time you're proven wrong. How that doesn't trigger an attitude change on your part is beyond me.
- MCvarial (talk) 17:13, 26 June 2017 (UTC)