Talk:Titanosaur (New York City)

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Merge discussion

Merge as nominator - This article is a WP:CONTENTFORK of Patagotitan that really only includes three or four sentences of unique information. The sources indicate that the specimen is notable as a dinosaur, not as a museum exhibit. Therefore, the existence of this standalone article is discouraged by policy. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 01:30, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not going to stand in the way of a merger, but since the exhibit is not a fossil but rather a cast of a fossil, I wasn't sure whether it should be separate. We seem to be slightly inconsistent, en wiki wide on how they're handled. I believe it was the first Titanosaur to be exhibited, but it's not 100% clear in the sourcing so wouldn't stand on that for notability. Happy to see how this shakes out. Star Mississippi 19:45, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Many, many titanosaur skeletons have been mounted. Titanosaurs are a whole group of dinosaurs with roughly a hundred known species. The AMNH titanosaur is the first publically displayed cast of Patagotitan, a titanosaur noteworthy for being the largest dinosaur for which a large part of the skeleton is known, which had not been formally named at the time the cast went on display. A nearly identical cast was put up at the Field Museum a couple of years later; the Field Museum's cast is nicknamed Máximo and has a comparable amount of media coverage to the AMNH one. Ornithopsis (talk) 06:07, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. The article is also terribly titled. Hemiauchenia (talk) 03:32, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Seems notable as per WP:GNG CT55555 (talk) 02:44, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree per WP:PAGEDECIDE. This article is not sufficiently independent of Patagotitan, both in terms of current and potential material, to warrant a standalone article that is not a content fork. I should note that, unlike Titus, the Titanosaur is a composite based on all known material of Patagotitan, which is exactly the subject covered by the Patagotitan article. This subject is better served by a sub-section of Patagotitan#Discovery, where the context about the specimens that comprise it is available. I realize the appeal in fighting against merges but there is no point in doing so if it does not help create better articles. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 04:39, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Relatively few specific dinosaur mounts are even mentioned in articles on the species, let alone have standalone articles—and this isn't even a real specimen, it's a cast! It isn't even the only cast of the same specimen to have received media coverage! The article title is also of limited value as a redirect to either Patagotitan or the AMNH. At best, this merits a brief mention on the Patagotitan and/or AMNH pages. Ornithopsis (talk) 06:18, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
there actually was a section on the exhibits in Titanosauria (independent of this article) but someone disagreed with it there as well. Star Mississippi 13:13, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That was me. This appeared to have been a legacy section added however many years ago. It's very non-standard, no other articles for higher-level groups do this. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 16:53, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Was on my phone and couldn't easily navigate to history to see who it was. I guess consensus is there's no standard way to handle these, so this conversation is a good one. Star Mississippi 17:28, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nominator. There are many, many fossil casts and mounts of dinosaurs, many of which will have nicknames and publicity-style coverage. Very, very few have any real significance separate from the species they represent. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 19:46, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nomination, since the notability established is about the species and not the mount specifically - they're not two distinct topics. LittleLazyLass (Talk | Contributions) 02:20, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am performing the merge. Consensus between the article creator and project editors is more than sufficient. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 09:08, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]