Talk:Trencadís

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First use for irregular curved surfaces?

The article states that "Gaudi was the first to use this technique in order to cover irregular curved surfaces with tiles." I think this should be confirmed. The same technique has been used with broken chinaware for at least several centuries in Vietnam, most notably in the decoration of communal houses (dinh) and tombs. Given that nowadays curved surfaces are often covered in these shards (for instance, when decorating three-dimensional dragons), I find it hard to believe that local traditional architecture does not have precedence of use on this specific technique...

Rdavout (talk) 10:27, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. Same in Valencia, there are several buildings from the late XIX century with this technique. But bothing can prevent catalanist from spreading their lies.

--84.126.10.233 (talk) 00:26, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gaudí was the first one in Spain who reinvented this medieval arab technique of architectural decoration. (See book on the Ruta del modernismo, Barcelona 2005, p 39)

Merge with Pique assiette

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The result of this discussion was to merge. MartinZ02 (talk) 20:27, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to be the exact same thing, and the introduction of the article says they are synomims. EuTuga^msg 01:08, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Trencadis uses broken tiles, while pique assiette seems to use multiple types of ceramics (plates, cups, etc). Anyway, we would need an expert to tell us if there are other differences.--Jordiferrer (talk) 02:25, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the famous bench by Jujol in Park Güell used broken tiles, but also broken bits of tableware, china, cups and bottles, and it's refered to as trencadís everywhere i looked... like you said, lets see if there are any experts here that can help. EuTuga^msg 17:09, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm not an expert. And in fact I was inclined to close this as no consensus... but then I found [1], [2] and [3]. They're not the best sources but I think they're good enough so will probably just go ahead and boldly perform this merge some time soon-ish. It's been hanging around for too long. (The French Wikipedia article also notes it is synonymous with pique-assiette, and the Spanish Wikipedia article makes no reference to the French.) -- Trevj (talk · contribs) 11:25, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It has been a while, I didn't remember about this anymore. My opinion hasn't changed though. EuTuga^msg 12:06, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Two of the sources you mentioned are in French language, while the other one is in English, but from a Spanish tourist office. I would rather find good sources in English language, before merging.--Jordiferrer (talk) 23:14, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I've now found a few more English sources (for both foreign terms),^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4] but I don't think it's an easy task to judge which is the common name. Therefore, per WP:UE, I suggest we stick with trencadís ("If there are too few reliable English-language sources to constitute an established usage, follow the conventions of the language appropriate to the subject") and merge in any relevant sourced contents from pique assiette per the merge proposal. -- Trevj (talk · contribs) 12:17, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b René Alquézar; Dr. Antonio Moreno; J. Aguilar-Martin (1 January 2010). Artificial Intelligence Research and Development: Proceedings of the 13th International Conference of the Catalan Association for Artificial Intelligence. IOS Press. p. 289. ISBN 978-1-60750-642-3.
^ ^a ^b Victoria Charles (1 July 2011). Gaudí. Parkstone International. p. 252. ISBN 978-1-78042-210-7.
^ ^a ^b Meera Lester; Marsha Janda-Rosenberg (2003). Adventures in Mosaics: Creating Pique Assiette Mosaics from Broken China, Glass, Pottery, and Found Treasures. Rockport Publishers. p. 8. ISBN 978-1-56496-999-6.
^ ^a ^b Reham Aarti Jacobsen (1 August 2005). Mosaics for the First Time. Sterling Publishing Company, Inc. p. 18. ISBN 978-1-4027-2780-1.

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[AlquézarMoreno2010-1] René Alquézar; Dr. Antonio Moreno; J. Aguilar-Martin (1 January 2010). Artificial Intelligence Research and Development: Proceedings of the 13th International Conference of the Catalan Association for Artificial Intelligence. IOS Press. p. 289. ISBN 978-1-60750-642-3.

[Charles2011-2] Victoria Charles (1 July 2011). Gaudí. Parkstone International. p. 252. ISBN 978-1-78042-210-7.

[LesterJanda-Rosenberg2003-3] Meera Lester; Marsha Janda-Rosenberg (2003). Adventures in Mosaics: Creating Pique Assiette Mosaics from Broken China, Glass, Pottery, and Found Treasures. Rockport Publishers. p. 8. ISBN 978-1-56496-999-6.

[Jacobsen2005-4] Reham Aarti Jacobsen (1 August 2005). Mosaics for the First Time. Sterling Publishing Company, Inc. p. 18. ISBN 978-1-4027-2780-1.

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