Talk:United States European Command

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soviet union?[edit]

the former Soviet Union, except the five central Asian republics

What are these five? --Abdull 16:15, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

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Relocation of EUCOM from France to Germany in 1967[edit]

The current version of the Article states: "In 1966, disagreements within NATO over involvement in the Vietnam War prompted France to demand the removal of all US and NATO headquarters and forces from French soil.[citation needed". I was unable to find any authority or support for the proposition that it was a disagreement concerning Vietnam that led to the French demand the US (and NATO) depart.

Rather, this NATO Allied Command Operations site <> supports the position that the French were unhappy about what they perceived to be their inability to more greatly influence NATO military policy, and wanted to increase their global influence and status, and says, "In February 1966 President de Gaulle stated that the changed world situation "stripped of justification” NATO's military integration and that France was therefore re-establishing her sovereignty over French territory. As a result, all forces within France's borders would have to come under French control by April 1969. Soon afterward, France announced that it was withdrawing from the headquarters of Allied Command Europe and that SHAPE and its subordinate headquarters Allied Forces Central Europe (AFCENT) must leave French territory by April 1967."

It looks as though the demand that "all forces within France's borders would have to come under French control" coupled with the demand that SHAPE headquarters and subordinate headquarters leave France by April 1967 were the impetus for the decision by USEUCOM to move from France to Stuttgart.

Unless someone can either provide support for the statement that this was a disagreement about Vietnam, or show some reason to believe that the move was not based on France wanting to increase its global influence and status by being more independent militarily, I would propose to edit the edit the sentence as it now appears to read somewhat as follows: "In 1966, following disagreements by the French with certain NATO military policies, President de Gaulle stated that all forces within France's borders would have to come under French control by April 1969. Soon afterward, France announced that SHAPE and its subordinate headquarters must leave French territory by April 1967." Citation would be to the ACO webpage mentioned above.

Comments? D.A.Timm (talk) 18:10, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Seeing none, I made the change. D.A.Timm (talk) 09:32, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

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