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Use in video games.[edit]

Should be a list of video games that have used this technique. Indigo prophecy, and Spec Ops: The Line, both come to mind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:46, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Agreed, I would also mention Portal and The Stanley Parable. --Babomancer (talk) 17:15, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

This is a very good idea, especially since in some video games you're actually playing the unreliable character yourself (unlike The Stanley Parable and Portal where there are actual "narrators" that are unreliable), like Braid, BioShock and Heavy Rain. --Spug (talk) 19:01, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Under Wikipedia policy you will need independent sources (other than yourself) that show that the narrator is, in fact, unreliable. Also, the article lists only the most important cases. It doesn't list all cases. Maybe you should start a list "List of unreliable narrators". Xxanthippe (talk) 21:39, 31 March 2014 (UTC).

In Call of Juarez: Gunslinger the unreliable narrator is openly challenged by his audience and when he concedes points are not actually true the level changes right in front of you to reflect the changed story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:05, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Missing the most familiar unreliable narrator[edit]

R2D2. (talk) 23:00, 9 October 2013 (UTC)Jj

Abba's "Money, Money, Money" and the Unreliable Narrator[edit]

If you're interested, Abba's "Money, Money, Money" is still an example of unreliable narrator, as confirmed to me by Carl Magnus Palm. Suit yourselves. Peace. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:51, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Edit by Xxanthippe: why revert a correction?[edit]

The user changed "Naïf" to "Naíf" (incorrect) and "Rashômon" to "Rashomon" (unnecessarily simplified). When corrected, the reason s/he gave for reverting my edit was: "Thanks, but we would like a policy for this". I don't understand. Do you want a policy for not correcting mistakes? For introducing typos? El Bit Justiciero (talk) 02:53, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

To six edit editor: this should be simple- what policy are you following in making your edit? Xxanthippe (talk) 03:31, 12 February 2014 (UTC).
Answering a question with another question is no answer. Can you explain why did you change the correct form "Naïf" to the incorrect form "Naíf"? This is not a power struggle, it's a matter of fact. (Also, I have made many edits with an older handle, but that's immaterial.) El Bit Justiciero (talk) 07:43, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Fight Club (the book) not an example but movie is?[edit]

Title should be self explanatory, why isn't the novel listed as an example? Is it just not considered significant or recognizable next to the movie? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:54, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Unreliable narration?[edit]

Does anybody agree that much of the sections « Definitions and theoretical approaches » and « Signals of unreliable narration » is in fact unreliable narration? --Clifford Mill (talk) 13:58, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Scout, in To Kill A Mockingbird. She is telling it as an "adult", but remembering an idealized version of her father, etc. This was evident even before the controversial "sequel" spelled it out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:34, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

A wider view?[edit]

The German page has more on the theory and more examples, while the Dutch page has further examples. --Clifford Mill (talk) 13:59, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Shutter Island as an example?[edit]

The main character from the book and the movie Shutter Island is a perfect example of an unreliable narrator. I suggest to add it to the list of examples. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:47, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

The Good Soldier example[edit]

I don't think John Dowell is a good example of anything. It isn't clear in the book whether he's justifying himself, or just stupid, or just an accidental reflection of author Ford Madox Ford's alleged real-life difficulties distinguishing fantasy from reality.Philgoetz (talk) 23:08, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Jun'ichirō Tanizaki's The Key suggestion[edit]

The Key has two unreliable narrators. The book is written as a husband and wife's diary entries, written assuming that the other will read them. Arguably, the narrators are not unreliable but the narration itself is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cruzlaw (talkcontribs) 21:08, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Proposed Example of Unreliable Narrator: Edgar Allan Poe's "The Tell-Tale Heart"[edit]

This is one of the best examples. In the first sentence the narrator reveals, yet denies, his psychosis and consistently treats his hallucinations as completely normal experiences which he is amazed are not shared by the listener. (talk) 23:24, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Maybe, but you will have to find a source. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:21, 3 June 2015 (UTC).

Quote from above source: ""The Tell-Tale Heart" uses an unreliable narrator." (talk) 04:58, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia cannot be used as a source for itself. Sources need to be independent, see WP:RS. Xxanthippe (talk) 09:13, 3 June 2015 (UTC).

I didn't come here to debate. I made a reasonable suggestion. If you choose to implement it, fine. This has degraded into an unnecessary argument in which I will no longer take part. (talk) 19:34, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Notable works featuring unreliable narrators in TV shows[edit]

I came to this page discussing USA Network's TV show Mr. Robot, featuring an unreliable narrator as the main character of the show. I suggest to add it to the to-be-created list, do any of you have other examples in mind ? I am also thinking about Homeland (TV series) but I have watched it too long ago to be certain of it. Any other ideas/approvals ? Thanks ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by D4Nf6c4e6Nf3b6 (talkcontribs) 13:02, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

To be suitable for inclusion here material has to be a) sourced and b) notable. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:22, 30 August 2015 (UTC).
Mr. Robot was added to the article last year-Many refs to Unreliable Narrator available, just added one from Slate that had major focus on unreliable narrator aspect.TeeVeeed (talk) 14:02, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Fallen (film)[edit]

The movie Fallen with Denzel Washington and John Goodman should be included as another good example of an unreliable narrator. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:26, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

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