Talk:Ushanka

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In the post-Soviet period there has been a backlash against this once ubiquitous hat, and it is considered unfashionable in many circles. It is unusual to see young men wearing them in major cities, and it is seen to be a sign of a foreigner, a rustic, a fashion victim, or an old timer trying to hold on to the legacy of the Soviet Union. This may be due to its connection with the U.S.S.R and the Soviet politburo and military. Some Eastern Europeans also consider it a legacy of russification. It should also be remembered that the opening of the Russian economy provided a much greater selection of garments to the Russian consumer, a consumer that previously had few options.

Its usage is currently falling, but whether this is a short term fashion trend or an indication of the end for the Ushanka remains to be seen. Currently young Russian men, at least Muscovites, tend to go hatless or prefer to wear skull caps or western baseball caps. Another, more practical, reason is general warming of climate that makes Ushanka somewhat less comfortable, as it is fairly warm and is best suitable for temperatures of -10 °C and below. Also as it is made of natural fur, it is more expensive than other headwear made from textiles or man-made materials.

This a mix of fantasy ("politburo") and tourist observations ("major cities"). the only reasonable part is "global warming" (sic), but it (together with decrease of ushanka usage) started before collapse of the Soviet Union. Also, "natural fur"/"expensive" is irrelevant, since plenty of them are from artificial fur and even worse. mikka (t) 23:14, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

!!!!! What about ШЛЯПА (нем. Schlappe) this is "мужской или женский головной убор, обычно с тульей, из материалов, позволяющих сохранить устойчивую форму". And Russians have general word like "hat" - "головной убор"

A wikipedia search of 'ushanka' does not yield this site. How can we fix that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kamerad (talk • contribs) 01:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC).

Shapka

My Russian teacher told me that Russian did not have a generic name for "hat" -- that шапка refers to a winter hat in particular, not too different from the Ushanka. Can someone native confirm or deny this? --Fastfission 18:08, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Russian is my native language. Common headgear types are mostly covered by two russian words: шапка refers to a winter hat, and шляпа is for hat (like this: [1]).

!!!!! What about ШЛЯПА (нем. Schlappe) this is "мужской или женский головной убор, обычно с тульей, из материалов, позволяющих сохранить устойчивую форму". And Russians have general word like "hat" - "головной убор"

I'd say that "шапка" is more or less equivalent to the word "hat" in English. You can use it to refer to any sort of hat, though if there's a more specific word (like "шляпа" or "кепка") - it might be better to use it. Azov 23:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

This is wrong! And your teacher was right :-). "Шапка" means either a fur hat (not necesarily ushanka-shaped) or a knitted one, while "шляпа" is a general term for a formal man's hat, a cowboy hat, a sombrero etc. AFAIK (I am a native speaker), the two words are virtually never mixed nowadays. Also, deminutive "шапочка" may be used for a swimming cap or a surgical cap, while "шляпка" is definitely a lady's hat. There are also hats that are neither shapkas nor shlyapas e.g. a flat cap, a military cap, a berette, etc. 213.85.28.33 17:04, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Fix in progress

Im going to do some work on this article and get rid of that ugly bar at the top, anyone who speaks russian , please add a link which verifies the translation - ill do some digging myself though CryptSphinx (talk) 04:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Just an observation. "In 1991, with the fall of the Soviet Union came the first wave of commercially imported Russian winter hats into the United States." Well my mother bought one in Greenwich Village, New York in the 1960s and I still have it. I suspect there must have been a commercial trade back then but I have no more evidence for it than there is for the above statement. Perhaps it should be removed, or at least flagged as citation needed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.38.159.92 (talk) 14:49, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Page name

As you say, "In the English-speaking world, it is referred to as a shapka". So why isn't the main page at Shapka? I have never heard anyone refer to it in English as a ushanka. Widsith (talk) 12:26, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Seconding this. I've been looking to buy an ushanka, and searching for "ushanka" yields way more results than "shapka." 68.42.72.226 (talk) 23:30, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Ushankas as a current or recent British/Irish fashion

Over the last winter, Ushanka hats were seen being worn by young men in Britain and Ireland. Famously, one of these hats was worn by Kirk McCambley, a pivotal figure in the Iris Robinson scandal (link: [2]). I am not aware of the hat being called a Shapka, Ushanka or any other name other than a "Russian hat" or "fur hat". I thought this was worth mentioning given the "fashion victim" comment above. Rugxulo (talk) 23:10, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

1% wearing Sable ushanka

"1% wearing Sable ushanka" -- What's that, 1%? Ottens (talk) 13:19, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Fur caps of ushankas?

I've always tough that Wikipedia articles are written in neutral view. Russians aren't the only one who use fur caps so it's stupid to make them only as a Russian head wear. --Taistelu-Jaska (talk) 22:04, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

RCMP muskrat fur caps vs. Ushanka

Do you really think, that the RCMP mukrat fur caps are derived from the russian ushankas. Canadians should know it better. The RCMP fur jockey Caps are derived from the Yukon fur caps and this form of fur caps is older then the ushankas. Google for it and you may find documents and fotos of the origen of the RCMP winter caps. This is a canadian heritage and not a cap derived from russian ushankas. Greetings from Germany! --Ulenspiegel (talk) 02:09, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

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