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John Bogle[edit]

John Bogle, founder of The Vanguard Group. Is he from Verona or Montclair? These 2 contradict each other

www.vanguard.com
American National Business Hall of Fame

Which is it?

Wiki Article: Wikipedia: John C. Bogle


  • Bogle's childhood in Verona is discussed in "The Vanguard Experiment: John Bogle's Quest to Transform the Mutual Fund Industry" (ISBN 0786305592)

Township Flag[edit]

Anyone interested in editing the flag of Verona, whether be to edit, modify or improve it, the photoshop file is located at http://www.veronafd.org/flagveronanj.psd

DECA[edit]

I have a real problem with the inclusion of the DECA vice president. As a DECA alumni myself, i do not feel its "notable resident" worthy. Although a great accomplishment, i feel it should be included with a DECA page, or if at very least, possibly the Verona High School page.

Also, the fact that a minor listed on wiki troubles me as well...

  • i think this is a joke. I sent a warning page.

New York Radio Edit[edit]

Thanks for cleaning up my edits, but i feel that the New York Radio should be linked to the template. it gives an overview of the radio stations in the area...what do you think?

  • I wasn't sure if that was your intention. We haven't done it elsewhere, but that's not a reason to impose that here. I would have preferred to link to an article, rather than a template, but I don't see an article that covers the area. Why don't you try the template and see how it flows. Alansohn 21:57, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yeah, there is no actual page, but the template has alot of good info on it. maybe in the near future myself or someone else will make a page...Soccera2g 23:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Township of the Borough of Verona[edit]

The offical name of Verona is that. Any arguments in why this should or should NOT be included in the infobox should be discussed here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soccera2g (talkcontribs)

That doesn't make any sense. It is either a Township or a Borough, not both. They are legally seperate. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 17:09, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
please see Township_(United_States)#Civil_township, the very last paragraph to help explain it better. Legally, Verona is a township, however, due to senseless funding guidelines back in the 70s resulting in towns changing to townships, but still keeping their boro or village name in it. It isn't stating that the town has two forms of government. its just a naming thing. All paystubs and P.O.s state Township of the Boro of Verona on it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Soccera2g (talkcontribs) 18:40, 10 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]
There is no indication that this is still in effect. The Municipal Code is titled Code of the Township of Verona, New Jersey. The contents of the code sometimes uses township and sometimes uses borough, indicating that Verona has changed its form of government at some point in its history. Everything on the official web site shows "Township of Verona". "Borough of Verona" does not appear. See [1]. Unless you can find an official source on the name, I think we can safely say this is no longer the case. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 00:47, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
See the middle of the page. The official department website has stated that the towns "official name" is Towship of Boro...Soccera2g 06:54, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That is the fire department web site, and it is unclear when that statement was written. The article seems to have originally been written in 1984 (bottom of the page), but there have been various updates. That statement could date to 1984. Can you explain the conflict between that and the official municipal site? --ChrisRuvolo (t) 21:18, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I believe its just for simplicity sakes. I know the guy who works on the offical website does not work for the town. He just volunteers his time and experience. I also know he hasn't lived in Verona long enough to know about the name. As i said before, i have gotten P.O.s from the town as of a few months ago which had "...of borough of...", and i recall seeing paychecks from them as well. Unfortunately i do not have them on me to back up as a source. Lets keep it as is, and ill dig deeper and find more information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Soccera2g (talkcontribs) 22:25, 12 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]
Sure, sounds good. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 15:26, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would to add my two cents here if I may, towns in New Jersey can use be incorporated as a Township and Village or a Town and a Borough, A good example is South Orange, New Jersey which is incorporated as the Township of the Village of South Orange, Previously they were simply a Village and in fact their Government body is the Village Trustees but legally they are both a Township and a Village. They call me Mr. Pibb 20:49, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There are a whole series of municipalities, mostly in Essex County, that changed over to the Township (New Jersey) type of government in the 1970s. In most cases, the change was rather superficial, consisting primarily of insertion of the word "Township" into their official title, while remaining vestiges of their earlier type of government. Whatever they are, they're not both, but what are they now that the township addition offers no benefit? Alansohn 03:22, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I believe the benefit that you are seeking is the fact that towns which are designated as both a Township and a Village and/or a Town and a Borough receive funding from the state based on their designation so if a town like South Orange is a Township and a Village they receive funding based on being a Township and a Village designation. They call me Mr. Pibb 05:16, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
In the 1970s, a federal program offered an aid program that only went to townships. Several boroughs, towns and villages (mostly in Essex County) changed to townships in order to be eligible for this funding. They weren't both village AND township or borough AND township, they became townships. Even when they changed over, they still have retained terms such as "Borough Council" or "Village Trustees" for their government, which would make it appear that they are both. The fact that Verona and South Orange have used formal names that include both the old and new type of government also does not make them both. Alansohn 11:19, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Connie Francis[edit]

"singer and actress. During the late 1950's and early 1960's she was one of the most talented and successful singers of popular music. Her many hits included, "Where the Boys Are," "My Happiness," "Lipstick on Your Collar," "Who's Sorry Now" and others. She was extremely attractive and was romantically linked to Dick Clark of "American Bandstand.""

After attempting to verify the above information, i cannot find ANY source that mentions that Connie was from Verona. everything says that she is from Newark. can you please verify this information with a source? Soccera2g 19:10, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe Connie Francis is from Newark, but lived in Verona at one time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.116.234 (talk) 22:41, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comments[edit]

These have been moved here from a subpage as part of a cleanup process. See Wikipedia:Discontinuation of comments subpages.

I have assessed this article as C-class and identified the following areas for improvement:

  • The article needs inline citations

shirulashem (talk) 20:01, 26 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

VERONA name[edit]

Why did you choose the name Verona? These motivation about it would be very important to include in History... I think... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.211.164.232 (talk) 09:42, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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