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ii and ij in Informatsii and lavrentij are different things in russian. It is no place to teach you the Russian language here, you have just to believe. Mikkalai 00:54, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
Since there is no Wikipedia standard transliteration for Cyrillic I guess you can spell things any way you want. I'd rather you didn't follow me round changing my spellings, since one is as good as another for English-language readers. Adam 01:02, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
I understand that my edit might look like nitpicking. Did I follow you much lately? for English reader the fkfgk7i will just the same, so why bother at all? Still, this case is a quite different from usual conflicts in russian name transliterations. Mikkalai 01:07, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
What is fkfgk7i? Why is this case quite different? Adam 01:37, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
- (1) fkfgk7i is a joke.
- (2) There are two reasons.
- (2.1.) 'ii' in Informatsii is not a diphthong; tsi-i are two distinguishable syllables, the second i rendering a "special", "yotified" i, similar to the sounds rendered by letters ya (cyrillic) and yu (cyrillic). A stricter transliteration would be "tsiyi" or at least "tsyi". While 'iy' (ий) in lavrentiy is a diphthong, rendered as y or i, unless.
- (2.2) The letter 'y' is also used to render the Russian 'Ы', which is quite different, and in our case it is totally different (unless you give a shit for this russian katakana).
- With proper names the story is quite different. Some transliterations are matter of tradition, under the historical influences of French, Polish, and German and today, English. In these cases I absolutely don't care and will never edit your version, unless there is a really long tradition. Mikkalai 02:10, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
Also, if you want to be really useful, why don't you propose a Wikpedia standard for Cyrillic transliteration to help people like me who want to write on Russian/Soviet topics? For example I can spell Будённый at least a dozen ways in English (Budenny Budenni Budennii Budenniy Budienny Budienni Budiennii Budienniy Budyenny Budyenni Budyennii Budyenniy Budёnny Budёnni Budёnnii Budёnniy Budyonny Budyonni Budyonnii Budyonniy Boodjonnyj). Adam 01:49, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
- Talk to you in 2-3 hours. Mikkalai 02:10, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
After the war he controlled the Soviet foreign espionage network known as the Information Committee (Komitet Informatsii or KI. KI is a fiction by Aleksandr Zinoviev. See "Gomo Sovieticus".
(?) - Abakumov never controlled the KI, he was in charge (not directly) of foreign espionage as a head of MGB in 1946
- There is very little in the main article about Abakumov's back-ground. The reason he was a supporter of Beria is not clear. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 14:39, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
- Ogolcov's name is sometimes spelled "Ogoltsov".
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