Talk:Vulgar language
 | This redirect was nominated at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion on 30 September 2018. The result of the discussion was retarget. |
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[edit]The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
It was 2014 when I made this revert so that Vulgar language continued to redirect to Profanity. I reverted it redirecting to Vulgar because "'vulgar language' too often refers to profanity; this is a WP:Primary topic." Now I see that, after an IP changed the redirect to Vernacular, something that I missed, there is edit warring on the page Vulgar language (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). This edit warring is to keep the term redirecting to Vernacular. I fail to see why the term should redirect to Vernacular. DVdm and Accesscrawl, this needs to go to WP:Redirects for discussion. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:41, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Flyer22 Reborn: please check block log of the IP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/75.170.21.25 and you will know why we are reverting. He is involved in ban evasion. Accesscrawl (talk) 08:36, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) @Flyer22 Reborn: I reverted the redirect when checking the edits of (now indef blocked) user Brandon5015 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), who seemed obsessed with making bad edits to just about all our articles in the field of "bad words". Two days before my revert I had put a final warning [1] on their talk for this little gem. So this was just a revert of another bad edit, which in turn was a revert of this good edit. Indeed, as far as I can see in the dictionaries, profane is religion related, whereas vulgar and vernacular are not—check the terms' origins and etymology. - DVdm (talk) 08:49, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- Note: Brandon5015 is back as . I have left a report at wp:AIV, and IP is now blocked for two weeks. @Flyer22 Reborn: please help keeping an eye on this vandal, reverting their edits when they return, including to this article Vulgar language. If you think that their edits are okay, then you are free to bring it to WP:Redirects for discussion
- DVdm (talk) 09:01, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- DVdm, Rcsprinter123 created the redirect in 2012. The redirect continued to point to the Profanity article until this IP showed up and changed it in 2017. It should be restored so that it redirects to Profanity. Those wanting to redirect it to Vernacular are the ones who should take the matter to WP:Redirects for discussion. But, fine, I will take it to WP:Redirects for discussion. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 22:55, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, I know what happened, and this redirect was 100% to the point, and with nobody objecting, de-facto accepted by the community. Until Brandon5015 came along and made his bad move, as he did to dozens of other articles, and for which he is indef blocked now. So there is —again, de-facto— wp:consensus to keep the redirect to Vernacular. DVdm (talk) 06:44, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
- Per the redirect discussion, where a number of editors agree with me, that redirect by that IP was a poor choice, and I would have reverted if I had seen it. There was no de-facto acceptance by the community simply because the community, except for Brandon5015 with a clue, failed to notice the poor redirect. The community is weighing in now, and this term will cease to point to the Vernacular page. Brandon5015 may have been disruptive on other matters, but he is correct on this one. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:25, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
- Commented where it belongs. - DVdm (talk) 08:06, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
- Per the redirect discussion, where a number of editors agree with me, that redirect by that IP was a poor choice, and I would have reverted if I had seen it. There was no de-facto acceptance by the community simply because the community, except for Brandon5015 with a clue, failed to notice the poor redirect. The community is weighing in now, and this term will cease to point to the Vernacular page. Brandon5015 may have been disruptive on other matters, but he is correct on this one. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:25, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, I know what happened, and this redirect was 100% to the point, and with nobody objecting, de-facto accepted by the community. Until Brandon5015 came along and made his bad move, as he did to dozens of other articles, and for which he is indef blocked now. So there is —again, de-facto— wp:consensus to keep the redirect to Vernacular. DVdm (talk) 06:44, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
- DVdm, Rcsprinter123 created the redirect in 2012. The redirect continued to point to the Profanity article until this IP showed up and changed it in 2017. It should be restored so that it redirects to Profanity. Those wanting to redirect it to Vernacular are the ones who should take the matter to WP:Redirects for discussion. But, fine, I will take it to WP:Redirects for discussion. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 22:55, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- Note: Brandon5015 is back as . I have left a report at wp:AIV, and IP is now blocked for two weeks. @Flyer22 Reborn: please help keeping an eye on this vandal, reverting their edits when they return, including to this article Vulgar language. If you think that their edits are okay, then you are free to bring it to WP:Redirects for discussion
Closed as retarget to Vulgar#Language - DVdm (talk) 15:33, 29 October 2018 (UTC)