Talk:WhereIsPengShuai

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Proposed merge of Disappearance of Peng Shuai with WhereIsPengShuai[edit]

Covers similar topic and doesn't seem to meet notability Aaron Liu (talk) 12:14, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree that the two articles cover the same thing and should be merged. However, I prefer the "#whereispengshuai" title, or Where is Peng Shuai?.

Much like Where is Kate?, the speculation, hashtag, and public/media response seem more notable here than the known facts of her absence. And the WTA ban/reverse. "Disappearance" is probably WP:UNDUE for the title, especially now that she has "reappeared".

PK-WIKI (talk) 09:06, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The hashtag seems like a minor facet of the story. It's not undue, as that is what everyone focused on. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:50, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Where is Peng Shuai?" is the "central question" of the affair and is the question and hashtag used by the people bringing light to the matter. The "social media campaign", external concern for her, WTA ban, and the investigation into her whereabouts is more notable than her "disappearance" itself. Merged article should be titled Where is Peng Shuai?.

A central question, “Where is Peng Shuai?”, has represented concern for the star — New York Times

Where is Peng Shuai? For a brief moment during the Winter Olympics last year I had an answer, of sorts, to that deeply troubling question. For there she was, suddenly and without warning... — The Guardian

The word "disappearance" in reliable sources is often paired with qualifiers like "mostly disappeared from public view" or "disappeared from public view" or with 'disappearance' couched in quotes, hence WP:UNDUE to be stated unqualified in the article title. This is especially relevant now that she has re-appeared in various public appearances and is no longer "missing".

PK-WIKI (talk) 20:26, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The social media campaign is only one facet of the four things you've stated. The other four are just impacts of her disappearance and I don't see how they count towards making the hashtag the article title.

I also don't get your argument with undue. NYT also left it in quote marks, and nothing you've said means that sources don't agree that she disappeared, which is what the invocation of undue would lead one to believe. Aaron Liu (talk) 22:14, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Topic can be covered appropriately in Disappearance of Peng Shuai without losing relevant information. Skyshiftertalk 12:20, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Either keep, or merge the other direction into WhereIsPengShuai. That article was created 5 months prior and should take precedence. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:15, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see how creation dates are relevant. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:41, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If two articles cover the same topic, standard merging would be to merge the newer entry into the older entry. This is to preserve history if that is also being merged. The fact the whole world became aware by the term "Where is Peng Shuai" might also indicate a better choice of title due to notability. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Disappearance" is a lot more popular according to Google Trends, is a much more informative title, and since we'll probably just include half of the title I don't see the need for a history merge. I also see no documentation regarding creation dates at the relevant information page. Aaron Liu (talk) 19:06, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Disappearance of Peng Shuai article as the social media campaign is merely a particular aspect of the story and can be covered, perhaps as a separate section, in the Disappearance article.--Wolbo (talk) 11:28, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]