Talk:Whoopee cap
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bullies
[edit]In the comic strip Winthrop, the bully Nasty McNarf wore such a cap. I wonder whether he got it from Bugs Meany. —Tamfang (talk) 07:39, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
In popular culture
[edit]Yes, various people have warn whoopee caps in various TV shows, films, plays, comic books, popular songs, knock-knock jokes, operas and lyrical ballads. This is also true of glasses, jeans, beards, etc.
No, an indiscriminate list of a topic appearing in popular culture is not an improvement, even if the entries are sourced. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. A random list of characters wearing an item does not say anything meaningful about the item. The fact is not encyclopedic. - SummerPhDv2.0 15:57, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
- This is an unusual and far-less-common cultural item than the global fashion items like glasses or jeans. The item was very popular in the decades surrounding the 1950s, and needs documentation on Wikipedia of its very notable uses. Pop culture sections are not disallowed on Wikipedia, so long as the use is relevant, important, and useful to understanding the subject. In this case, it is essential to understanding it, based on its variety of uses and the dates of shows, etc. in which it features. ɱ (talk) 16:37, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
- Please take your deletionist ideas elsewhere and let this little article thrive in peace. It's not hurting anyone to give some relevant examples of its use in popular culture, the only ways people can witness the item, seeing how it died from public sale and use decades ago. ɱ (talk) 16:39, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
- "This article appears to contain trivial, minor, or unrelated references to popular culture. Please reorganize this content to explain the subject's impact on popular culture, using references to reliable sources, rather than simply listing appearances."
- That you feel this particular indiscriminate list is "not hurting anyone" is not a reason to include a random selection of appearances. Yes, this unusual hat style is less common than jeans, glasses, etc. Other uncommon items would not benefit from random lists of appearances in popular culture include sextants, storm glasses, tarantulas as pets, jackboots, etc.
- Given that this list is not a comprehensive list of every occurrence of the hat in popular culture, what are your proposed selection criteria for this list making up 2/3 of the article? - SummerPhDv2.0 17:10, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Ɱ: The flat assertion that this particular indiscriminate list is "important to subject" is not convincing. Other than your personal opinion that this indiscriminate list is important and better than the earlier indiscriminate list, do you have selection criteria (unambiguous, objective, and supported by reliable sources) which you would like to propose? - SummerPhDv2.0 21:18, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
- Still no discussion. I'll be removing the indiscriminate list tomorrow. - SummerPhDv2.0 02:54, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
- Oops. Missed that "tomorrow". In any case, still no discussion. It's gone. - SummerPhDv2.0 22:52, 2 September 2019 (UTC)