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Quote Logos[edit]

Is the article right it saying the second logo was only used for a day?

Domain registration[edit]

Anybody want to go ahead and reserve http://wikiquote.org and http://wikiquote.com for the Wikimedia Foundation? I would but my partner won't let me buy any more URLs for Wikimedia. --mav 21:31 10 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Nevermind. Jimbo just bought both of the domains. --mav

Meta[edit]

I moved this to the Wikipedia: namespace following our general policy that just because you have a website, doesn't mean we have to have an article on your website. That's why goatse.cx was moved to shock site, why we weren't going to keep yoism just because it had a website, and why lots of articles on obscure websites have been deleted.

Consider that Wikipedia has had press coverage - wikiquote has not. Consider the google test - google:wikiquote -wikipedia: 2 hits, which turn out not to be talking about the wikiquote site.

It can be moved back if/when it becomes famous. Martin 23:19, 1 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Wikipedia is officially part of the Wikimedia foundation and thus automatically inherits fame, reputation and verifiability from it. It could be integrated into the Wikimedia article for lack of content, but I see no good reason to move it into the meta namespace.—Eloquence 00:34, Aug 2, 2003 (UTC)
I must say, this page is rather stubly (still); do you think we should merge it into Wikimedia or somewhere, unless/until there's more to say? - IMSoP 19:57, 18 May 2004 (UTC)

Removing quotes from Wikipedia?[edit]

Hi, one thing is not yet clear to me: Is Wikipedia about to loose it's quotations? Do we just COPY or do we MOVE the existing quotes? Fantasy 13:31, 21 Aug 2003 (UTC)

I would suggest to copy them, unless there are many in one article. - Patrick 11:51, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
You don't want to remove a single defining quote of a person from their Wikipedia article. At the same time, we want to avoid duplication between Wikiquote and Wikipedia if we can. How about for each article we copy all the quotes to Wikiquote, and then possibly leave one or two quotes on Wikipedia? Also, what do we do with pages that are all quotes, such as the proverb pages? Do we just move them all to Wikiquote, and leave links on the Proverb page itself to them? (And a single External link on each of the individual proverb pages as a kind of redirect?) Nanobug 12:29, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
In answer to part of the question, I think for most articles (i.e. people, books, movies, plays, tv) then all the quotes should be put on wikiquote, with no more than three remaining on wikipedia, and links between the two pages. Which reminds me, there is no way to interlink with wikiquote yet. - fagan

My question even goes in two directions: Do we copy then the Wikiquote-Articles into Wikipedia as well? Fantasy 12:26, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)

What Wikiquote articles? Or do you mean all of them? (i.e. close down Wikiquote altogether and merge it into Wikipedia) Nanobug 12:29, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
No, just, if you add quotes to Wikiquote, you can add the quote to Wikipedia as well. I would expect in Wikipedia at least one famous quote of famous people, not all of them (they can be in Wikiquote), but some. I think, in the end Wikipedia will contain an extract (the best of) Wikiquote. Fantasy 21:48, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Where is Wikiquote?[edit]

I have not been able to load up Wikiquote for almost a month now. Is it defunct? 68.11.112.42 03:06, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Course not, it's up at quote.wikipedia.org or wikiquote.org or whatever you like. (user info would go here if i rememberd how to do it)

Just click the link. [1] Cheers, Basketball110 vandalise me 16:08, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Korean Wikiquote[edit]

It says that Korean Wikiquote should have a URL of http://kr.wikiquote.org however, it seems like Wiki has reserved that area for Kanuri language? KR is official postfix (is that what you call it?) for South Korea. But Kanuri? just wondering. and where is Korean one then?

WJK

Is this it? --OGoncho 30 June 2005 07:28 (UTC)

== Date founded? When was the project first set up? MessedRocker 00:28, May 10, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Quotes[edit]

Wikipedia:Quotes redirects here. I was trying to find a section in WP:MOS about when the use of quotation is allowed on Wikipedia, but failed. Do we have such a guideline? If so Wikipedia:Quotes should be a redirect.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 01:41, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Updated statistics[edit]

I've updated the statistics mentioned in the text, based on each project's article count on its main page, or (where that is not provided in Arabic numerals) a count of pages in its main article space. (I only counted the projects currently listed here.) As of about 30 minutes ago, this yielded:

All articles Language
7828 English
6833 German
3790 Polish
3385 Italian
3113 Portugeuse
2695 Bulgarian
 ? French
1188 Spanish
1072 Turkish
828 Chinese
661 Hebrew
527 Japanese
394 Hungarian
379 Greek
370 Dutch
237 Persian
204 Arabic
127 Romanian
67 Latin
56 Korean
31 Tamil
20 Thai
4 Afrikaans
1 Telugu

(The French project's count is not listed, as it is suspended, but it had over 2,000 articles before, so it's still in the top 7, assuming it gets reactivated.) The numbers may be slightly off, but they should be fairly close. Please feel free to correct my update if my methodology isn't adequate. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 17:13, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Reliable sources for this article[edit]

W.marsh tagged this article as unreferenced, which is true, but it raises an interesting question: what constitutes a proper source for an article on Wikiquote? Although websites can serve as a source for their own existence and arguably even for some information on themselves, our policy is not to use wikis in general as a source. If we extract information from the historical data through MediaWiki means, or use the Internet Archive for old information, are we not committing original research? If we have no reliable sources for this information, does that justify deleting the article? Methinks we need to figure out how to adequately source whatever we put in here. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 00:22, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I just put the tag up, I might google around later, but unless someone can find something to verify stuff it should probably be trimmed significantly. Milto LOL pia 19:14, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Deletion[edit]

Maybe AfD would be suited here, considering it's entirely self-referential and has zero sources. Milto LOL pia 10:19, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Sunshine[edit]

I have seen the quote “Sunshine is the best disinfectant.” Attributed to him, but don’t see in here. Can anyone confirm this quite is by Brandeis? --Lbeaumont (talk) 15:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

The attribution is incorrect. He merely repeated a preexisting aphorism. See Louis Brandeis at Wikiquote: "Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants..." ~ Ningauble (talk) 13:33, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Disband[edit]

On Wikiquote it says that they are going to disband it. Are they really going to do this? EvilWendyMan 00:41, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Very much doubt it. See e.g. On disbanding Wikiquote. Richard001 (talk) 04:22, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


Attribution[edit]

I appended "with appropriate attribution" in the introduction at "to give details about them". I think that this is a very important feature of WikiQuotes. I am weary of so many commercial sites that do not give the original source, then misquote outright or attenuate part of the quote that is otherwise widely recognized. A proper citation for a quotation allows the readers to confirm its authenticity if they wish to do so and provide further insight into the authors. Tachyon 16:01, 12 December 2010 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janopus (talkcontribs) 16:01, 12 December 2010

Although Wikiquote did not originally make a big deal about reliable citations, it has become a major focus in the past couple years. There is still a ways to go before legacy un-sourced attributions on the site are cleaned up.

I know many journalists and other authors already use Wikiquote as a resource for accurately cited quotes, and for debunking widespread misquotes and misattributions. I am just waiting for some of them to write about it more extensively than the occasional acknowledgement, so that we can add an independently sourced paragraph about it here. ~ Ningauble (talk) 17:46, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

update[edit]

updated long back. please update--Dvellakat (talk) 09:50, 4 February 2012 (UTC)