Talk:William Barnes Jr.

Find A Grave external links

@Nikkimaria: I don't get your arguments. One time, you delete a Find A Grave link on the grounds that there are photos of the gravestone in the Wikipedia article. Another time, you argue that no gravestone photo on the Wikipedia article isn't grounds for keeping a Find A Grave link.

I really don't get it. I mean, if the supposed standard was consistent, I could figure out whether to comply or argue against it. But it's not. So how am I supposed to respond?

Billmckern (talk) 00:41, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My standard is WP:FINDAGRAVE-EL - such links are rarely appropriate, and only if they contribute something specific and unique. I don't think it does in this case. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:44, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Nikkimaria: Why does Wikipoedia have a template for the Find A Grave link if it's not supposed to be used?

Why are you making a different argument now than you've made previously?

Billmckern (talk) 01:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It can be used, rarely, when there is good reason to do so. What argument of mine are you referencing? Nikkimaria (talk) 01:31, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Nikkimaria: Then what's a "good reason"? Whose judgment dictates it? Let's establish the parameters now so there's no question.

You and I have gone back and forth about this issue before and on at least one recent occasion when I asked why you removed the Find A Grave link, you said it was because gravestone photos had been added to the memorial, which I thought made sense. But the implication was that if there weren't gravestone photos, the link would have stayed.

Billmckern (talk) 10:15, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But the implication was that if there weren't gravestone photos, the link would have stayed. That isn't correct. The fact that there's already a photo of a gravestone in an article weighs against the link providing something unique; however, it doesn't automatically mean that articles without such a photo must include a link. What good reason do you believe exists in this case? Nikkimaria (talk) 11:39, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Nikkimaria: I'm out. It's pretty clear that this discussion isn't going to be productive. Moving on.

Billmckern (talk) 16:13, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]