Talk:Won sign
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[edit]Is it noteworthy that the won symbol appears on my Android phone with a single (not a double) horizontal line through it? It took me hours to verify that the modified symbol appearing on my phone's virtual keyboard was the won symbol, and it sure would have been nice if that was mentioned here. I have an old Android OS on a samsung phone...lets see: OS is Android 2.3.6 (Gingerbread.uvle1) I think I've seen a similar representation elsewhere, but haven't located where...72.172.10.20 (talk) 07:33, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
"Most Korean keyboards input 0x5C
when the won sign key is pressed"
[edit]I have tagged this phrase as dubious because it is not technically correct. All keyboards generate a scan code that the OS (exceptionally, an application) interprets. Keyboards are very simple, their microcode doesn't need awareness of what is engraved on the key. It just needs to tell the OS that the third key on the second row was pressed while the first key on the fifth row was pressed. It is an OS setting that determines what happens next. IMO, this whole sentence needs to be rewritten. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 12:47, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
- I presume Korean Keyboard is almost the same in case of inputing ordinary ascii code but it has won symbol engraved at the position where backspace is positioned in ordinary English or European Keyboards. --Anonymous Korean — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.165.198.15 (talk) 03:01, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- No, not really. Whether you have a US or KO keyboard makes no practical difference to the operation of the hardware. In each case, you press the rightmost key on the second row (ignoring the function key row, if any) and the keyboard sends to the computer the scancode for that position. That's it. Not a backslash,not a won sign, nor even a < sign (Netherlands keyboard), just the scancode, the same scancode in each case. It is the OS that checks which keyboard mapping you have installed and assigns the appropriate character when presenting to the app.
- So the problem is how to rewrite the sentence. How about
The keyboard mapping for most personal computers in Korea still assigns the value
Of course it would need a citation. But is this really still true? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 16:13, 30 October 2021 (UTC)0x005C
(the value assigned in Unicode to the backslash character), rather than0x20A9
(the value assigned in Unicode to the Won sign).
- So the problem is how to rewrite the sentence. How about
- I believe in the Windows API the fact that the key has a Won symbol on it is known to the software. It is the software's decision to insert the character code 0x5c into the document, rather than perhaps the Unicode code or the Won symbol from some other character set. So I would blame this on editing software.Spitzak (talk) 20:04, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- That is certainly true. It is a legacy of the pre-Unicode "code page" technology. Are code pages still used? Clearly it is not literally true that the keyboard inserts 005C so would it be more accurate to say that "MsWindows inserts x05C when the Won key is pressed"? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 00:09, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
- I believe in the Windows API the fact that the key has a Won symbol on it is known to the software. It is the software's decision to insert the character code 0x5c into the document, rather than perhaps the Unicode code or the Won symbol from some other character set. So I would blame this on editing software.Spitzak (talk) 20:04, 30 October 2021 (UTC)