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Cruyff was voted second. and why are players like okocha and rensenbrink not on it? how can Ladislao Kubala be voted best player of FC Barcelona in the 20th century, but still be behind kocsis etc? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.204.59.126 (talk) 22:24, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

World Soccer Player of the Year before 1982

You need to get the complete list

1952 Puskas 1953 Puskas 1954 Di Stefano 1956 Di Stefano 1957 Di Stefano 1962 Garrincha 1965 Eusebio 1966 Eusebio 1978 Kempes

They are listed in wikipedia articles of these same players. It is necessary to do a research, in most cases it's probable the missing World Player of the Year are similar to the French football balloon d'or, start looking for more information about those players. Did Pele ever got the World Soccer Player of the year? It isnt listed in his article in wikipedia. What about Cruyff? And Beckenbauer?

There was no World Soccer player of the year before 1982. The ones that appear in those articles are wrong. The award was only introduced in 1982. Comme (talk) 13:02, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

5 wikipedia articles wrong? They are listed in the same way worldsoccer.about.com , is someone making all that up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.136.189.206 (talk) 23:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes they are all wrong. World Soccer magazine was started in October 1960, so how could Puskas et al have won those awards? For many years World Soccer published a World XI, selected by Eric Batty based on the best players in the world, but the player of theyear was only introduced in 1982. Comme (talk) 09:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Numbering system

The numbering of "The 100 Greatest Players Of The 20th Century" is incorrect. However, I don't know how to correct it. Anyone could help? Salt 04:06, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

why is maradona first according to the surce Pele is first —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.108.39.147 (talk) 06:21, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can anyone provide a full citation for the "100 Greatest Players"? Thanks. --Jameboy (talk) 19:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

what is michael essien doing on a list that was published in 1999? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.180.66.190 (talk) 22:09, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WHAT IS DIDIER DROGBA DOING ON THIS LIST (44th)?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.7.109.29 (talk) 07:08, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The 100 Greatest Players of the 20th Century is so sad...so English... No one should believe this! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.144.63.145 (talk) 00:12, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The 100 Greatest Players of the 20th Century

I'm from the german wikipedia and I want to write thist articel in german. Last time the list of the 100 greatest players of the 20th century often had changed. Is this the real list? Is there a source for the list? On http://www.worldsoccer.com/ I hadn't found anything. 79.192.251.127 (talk) 10:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

==This list of 100 best players in history is not accurate.. Who came up with it? There is too much Bias in it to credible.

First of all, the most obvious and eye-popping sacrilege: the naming of the author's favourite players (even if obscure to most of the world) as part of the top 100 players ever! Example: Kenny Dalglish (#22 best ever player in history!) is ranked higher than the likes of Jairzhino, Rivelino, Socrates, Zidane, etc etc.

Who is Kenny? most importantly..who wants to know???? This is just one example of the sheer vulgarity of this top 100 list. There are plenty of more examples of this in this list.

Second of all: How can Goal Keepers be compared to Field players?? For Example: Pele is Ranked number 1 (correctly so) but in a list of best goal keepers ever, he would be ranked 1 billion places below Lev Yashin.

Same goes for comparisons between defenders and Forwards, and any other role combination you want.

Third point: There is too much sentimentality that gets in the way of accuracy in this incredibly bad top 100 list. For example: Franco Baresi is ranked a ridiculously high #19 in this list... a handy and tough defender at his peak, nevertheless gets recognition more for remaining in service for so long for the Azzuri rather than any particularly special ability he had. Don't get me wrong, he was a class defender but in a list of best defenders ever, he would rank top 20 at best! I mean, there is something really wrong in a list of Best Ever Players when Baresi is ranked #19 and Garrincha is ranked #20 !

One last point: I notice this list contains names of Welch and Scottish players that most of the world never heard of or would not be too faced if forgotten: Ian Rush, Neville Southhall, etc. The Author of that top 100 list is obviously Scottish (or at least Welch I am willing to guess).

Best Regards

Boris Alv (talk) 09:09, 12 February 2009 (UTC)Boris Alv[reply]

World Player of The Decade.

On December 10, 2009, Ronaldinho was voted World Soccer's Player of the Decade. Based on the votes cast by readers in the 10 annual votes between 2000 and 2009, the Brazilian – who was our(World Soccer Magazine) World Player of the Year in 2004 and 2005 – is the outstanding performer of the past 10 years.

Below is the total points gathered.

1 Ronaldinho 781

2 Lionel Messi 759

3 Cristiano Ronaldo 708

4 Thierry Henry 619

5 Kaka 567

6 Fabio Cannavaro 401

7 Pavel Nedved 394

8 Michael Owen 330

9 Luis Figo 290

10 Zinedine Zidane 270

11 Raul 261

12 Ronaldo 260

13 Andriy Shevchenko 230

14 Andres Iniesta 215

15 Michael Ballack 180

16 Xavi 163

17 Rivaldo 150

18 Fernando Torres 149

19= Samuel Eto'o 146

19= Frank Lampard 146

21 Steven Gerrard 134

[1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pslik (talk • contribs) 03:16, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Persistent vandalism

This page seems to be continually vandalised by either Cristiano Ronaldo fans or Lionel Messi fans to make it appear that their favourite has the most awards. I tried to ask for this page to be semi-protected so that unconfirmed users can't just vandalise it easily but as I had fixed the past vandalism and it is not happening on a daily basis they wouldn't protect it. I've just fixed the vandalism again but it is a pain having to undo although these fake edits. Can anyone else help get this page protected?Sudiani (talk) 17:55, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Wugapodes: please can you add the pending changes back to this page again? During the 6 months it was in place, the vandalism stopped significantly and was easy to fix but since it expired 3 weeks ago, we are now getting more regular vandalism of the page again which, for me, is a pain to fix. Is there a way to make the pending changes feature permanent for IP users? Sudiani (talk) 20:43, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sudiani: Can you take a look at the recent IP edit (from Jan 28)? I'm not sure whether it's good or not. At the moment I'm not sure PC protection is needed, but I'm still monitoring things and am willing to reconsider. — Wug·a·po·des 01:58, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Wugapodes: All seven of those IP edits are vandalism and need to be reverted. As were the other 3 since the protection came off (which have been reverted). As were almost all of the IP changes during the protection period. At least with the protection, they were easy to revert and the protection reduced the amount of vandalism. Sudiani (talk) 19:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pending-changes protected indefinitely. @Sudiani: Thanks, that info helps a lot! I've add pending changes indefinitely, but if IP edits are mostly vandalism it might be more effective to semi-protect. Let me know if things get worse, and thanks for your work maintaining this article! — Wug·a·po·des 20:10, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Much appreciated. Sudiani (talk) 20:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Awards section

Unless World Soccer's "Player of the Year" awards are widely recognized (i.e. covered in other press outlets) and considered a significant achievement (similar to Time's "Person of the Year" recognition, etc.), I don't see that their inclusion here meets the notability criteria. World Soccer as a magazine no doubt meets notability standards; I'm just not sure we should be dedicating 80% of the article to these awards. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:01, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, no on chooses to dispute this. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 00:24, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, i missed this proposal when it was first floated. Yes, they are widely regarded, see e.g here, here and here. Applying WP:BRD... Crowsus (talk) 01:17, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Crowsus: Thanks for the feedback. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:17, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Crowsus: Thanks for quickly reverting. I agree that this is an important part of the magazine for almost 40 years and is useful information and is notable, both for the players and public, and think the sources you shared support this.Sudiani (talk) 17:26, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Numbers added to table

As a pending changes reviewer, I reverted this edit because I was unsure why those numbers were added. If, as I suspect, they were meant to signify the total times a player won this award, the table should be consistent and have these numbers added for any player that won more than one. A separate column might also work for this purpose. Picking out just 2 players and adding their totals to their names doesn't work, but I appreciate the sentiment and I don't necessarily think it was a bad idea. Just the execution was fumbled. Wes sideman (talk) 17:28, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]