Talk:WrestleMania 22/Archive 1

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All copyrighted images licensed and restored as well as work by authors as they contribute to article in proper code of Wikipedia. Speculation and Rumors will be deleted following conclusion of event only —Preceding unsigned comment added by 3bulletproof16 (talk • contribs)

Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Wikipedia policy states that "Wikipedia is not a collection of unverifiable speculation" and "Articles that present extrapolation, speculation, and "future history" are original research and therefore inappropriate". The "rumors" section presents several poorly written and uncited claims such as "Randy Orton may be the superstar who wins the Royal Rumble match" and "Triple H will face John Cena for the WWE Champion [sic]". These are either (possibly baseless) rumours or total speculation. The only rumours with any credibility are the Michaels/Guerrero and Hogan/Austin rumours, because WWE has, to an extent, acknowledged these. These could be included if the section was cleaned up and some sources were provided. The section cannot, however, remain in its current form, as it is a blatant breach of Wikipedia policy. McPhail 20:19, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, so no rumors.

↪Lakes (Talk) 20:45, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia is also not a source for news, so hourly updates based on the latest addition to "Stone Cold Jimmy's Wrestling Blog 316" are not needed and are most certainly not encyclopedic.- Chadbryant 22:32, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

dude are you sure you're not high or anything? read the front page of wwe.com [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 3bulletproof16 (talk • contribs)

For the third time, please read Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. - Chadbryant 22:51, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

for the fifth time, please prove how that was speculation. show me exactly how this is speculation dont just post a link. i want you to say it in your own words how this is specualation —Preceding unsigned comment added by 3bulletproof16 (talk • contribs)

• Please sign your additions to a talk page.
• Even if an article covers an ongoing or current event, there is no excuse to keep adding "news" tidbits to it - Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a source for "news", or the kind of rumours posted all over the internet wrestling community. - Chadbryant 23:48, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

• Wikipedia is not a crystal ball - and not the textual equivalent of a sports radio. Keep the entries encyclopedic.
  Celcius ^(Talk) Wiki be With us! 11:11, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

The way I see it, as this event is in the near future, the logical choice would be to leave out any speculative rumors, as false ones will need to be deleted, and those that are true can be added after they become true. Dansiman 08:23, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Rey Mysterio in the main event

Given that it's been explicitly stated that Rey will be in the main event, shouldn't the article say so? There's no need for "likely"; the only thing we don't know yet is whether it'll be the World Heavyweight Championship or the WWE Championship that he competes for. 68.47.234.131 00:43, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== There's no guarantee until the night. He could be injured, or fired, or simply moved out of the main event for "creative" reasons. McPhail 15:05, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

His match against Orton at No Way Out is a good example of why you can never use absolute terms when discussing future wrestling events; they're always subject to change. Now it appears it'll be Orton/Angle at WrestleMania (though there is speculation that WWE may throw in Undertaker or Rey and make it a three-way). Jeff Silvers 23:33, 21 February 2006 (UTC)==

Rey Mysterio was officially placed in the main event on the edition of Smackdown! following No Way Out.

Main Event

If you've watched or heard about No Way Out, then you will know that Randy Orton is now the #1 Contender for a title shot at 'Mania. Rey lost it after Randy used the ropes for leverage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Adamaniac (talk • contribs)

WWE Title Tourney

Can someone explain to me why my section on a tournament to crown a #1 contender to challenge for the WWE Championship at WrestleMania 22 was erased? This is factual information that can be verified by going to the WWE website. Also according to the guidelines set forth by Wikipedia, this information was made public by the source (http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw) so therefore I had every right to post it. There was no reason why this information should have been deleted. If it needed to be cleaned up, I completely understand that...but total erasing of something that added to this article was uncalled for. The information I posted didn't break kayfabe and added to the article since this is all part of the road to WrestleMania. —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:71.29.39.97 (talk • contribs)

I have to agree, it was posted on WWE.com so it should have a mention. I've recently created an article for the Road to WrestleMania Tournament so its mention on this article shouldn't be too extensive though. --Oakster 18:11, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Well if you do decide to add something about the tournament to this article i suggest that it should also be added to theWrestleMania 21 article for the 2005 tournament.-3bulletproof16 18:22, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Triple H has won the tournament. —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:64.228.89.2 (talk • contribs)

Some Matchs already know for WrestleMania 22

Four Matchs set for WrestleMania 22 Undertaker vs Mark Herny Mick Foley Vs Edge Rany Orten Vs Kurt Angle John Cena Vs HHH —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Matty19 (talk • contribs)

With no disrepect to whomever posted this but your spelling and grammar are horrendous. In addition the four matches that you listed above are purely speculation at this point and nothing has even been set in stone as far those matches happening. I mean I can also list Shelton Benjamin vs. Ric Flair for the Intercontinental Championship and Candice Michelle vs. Trish Stratus for the Women's Championship as taking place at this year's WrestleMania but that doesn't mean it's going to come to fruition. At this point the matches that are already "known" are pure speculation and should be left as such until they are fully announced by the source, in this case World Wrestling Entertainment. 71.29.39.97 01:22, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

No at Wrestlemania Edge and Lita will split up and he make a match vs Mick Foley and he will lose . John Cena will lose the match vs HHH for the wwe title and Randy Orton will win the heavyweight title vs Kurt Angle . Torrie is envious for the success of Candice and they will make a match. Mickie James vs Trish Stratus and Mickie will win the match and take the woman title. Rey and Batista will win the match vs MNM and take their title (WWe tag team Champion) Ric Flair will lose the match vs Shelton Benjamin and Chris Benoit will defend the U.S. title vs Finlay and Bobby Lashley revenge's vs JBL. I think that...

Dont' tell me someone still thinks dirtsheets are unreliable?

Sites like the Wrestling Observer have been rarly and seldom wrong when it comes to leaking out the matches for WWE PPVs and angles, so everything that person posted, sans bad spelling, is accurate Dr. R.K.Z

Well I never said he was incorrect, so there's nothing this gentlemen needs to "prove." I simply pointed out that those matches have not been mentioned by the source (being WWE) as taking place at this year's WrestleMania whether they are true or not. As someone has already pointed out in a previous discussion, this is not an encyclopedia of what ifs and speculation, which is what this discussion is until the information that has been discussed in this forum has been verified by the WWE. Like I said, Trish Stratus is penciled to defend the Women's Championship at WrestleMania against Candice Michelle (Candice said this herself on the Tonight Show) but that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to happen. Everything is subject to change until it's verified by the source. I never said the "dirtsheets" (there's a great word) were unreliable or their information were false (as I read the "dirtsheets" like most anyone else who's a wrestling fan and has access to the Internet), simply just said it was speculation (and for all intents and purposes it is) until this information has been verified by the source. 71.29.39.97 04:03, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. If this happenned last year, I could imagine loads of "Undertaker/Kane vs. Heidenreich/Snitsky" edits. While they might be in most cases reliable, it's still speculation and subject to change. --Oakster 08:29, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Whoever said trish and candeice are fighting for the womans championship at wrestlemania is wrong that match is schedualed to take place next monday on raw- youcan'tseeme

71.29.39.97 01:06, 23 February 2006 (UTC) First off Junior, go back to school, learn the wonderful world of proper grammar & spelling then come back and talk to me. If you read my post, I said that Trish and Candice Michelle were scheduled to face off for the Women's title at WrestleMania, because that was what she (Candice Michelle) told Jay Leno on the Tonight Show, but I'm guessing you're a little too young to stay up that late. I didn't pull that out of my rear, and even I said myself that was subject to change (which as you can see it is) but I guess you were too busy wanting to prove how wrong I am instead of reading the full document as it was presented to you.

Hmm i dont know it says on Trishes page that she was originly scheduled to face Lita at WM 22. I dont know how she got Candice vs. Trish at WM. --Killswitch Engage 23:07, 23 March 2006 (UTC)Killswitch Engage

71.29.36.55 05:58, 24 March 2006 (UTC) Not to argue this point, because it's old and outdated, but this is what Candice Michelle said on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno. These are not my own words or me hypothesizing what I want to have had happened at WrestleMania. She said this, and said it for good reason, i.e., someone with authority in the WWE most likely told her of her future plans which has obviously changed. Please just let this comment die, and stop trying to correct me like I posted some unfactual information.

Actually, dirtsheets are unreliable... not everything they say is true. the majority of 'news' is just speculation... many insiders can predict very well what will happen, and that's how you often get your news - predicting...

It's not so much dirtsheets are unreliable as their RUMORS are unreliable. Dirtsheets have interviews with wrestlers all the time. Though it's harder with WWE stars, people who just got released like the Heart Throbs and the Tolands may know.

I dunno how these PPV wikipedias normally work, but people get injured all the time and STILL wrestle. Matty's stuff in that other section was definitely PURE speculation as there has been no storyline or insider confirmation of that stuff happening. WWE returns could have a delay period of months, so Batista should definitely not be confirmed in Wrestlemania and the rest don't have storyline backup to them. The World Heavyweight Title stuff has been worked on for a while, and changing or adding one name won't be a big deal. Undertaker vs Henry should definitely not be confirmed until there's been some storyline direction indicating that. And Mick Foley vs Edge is already in the works on TV 5 weeks before the big event.. (Then again so was Mickey James & Trish and WWE's unfortunately unpredictable nowadays...) so I figure putting that on the card won't be a big deal, even though Edge has been injured for a while and still wrestled in a TLC & we have no idea what kind of condition Mick Foley will be in at Wrestlemania.

On another side note, remember when WWE.com thought Torrie Wilson was released? --128.205.147.127 15:49, 23 February 2006 (UTC) STD

WWE.com never announced Torrie was released.. prove it. Matt

Unfortunate

Its unfortunate that this has degraded as it has. There are only a few sure things that can be mentioned here, one of them being that Rey Mysterio was scheduled to face the champion of his chosing, and that he is scheduled to defend that right against Randy Orton at No Way Out. Who the champion is could change, and yes Mysterio could be injured, and of course Wikipedia isn't a crystal ball, but there are many 'scheduled to occur' events listed, look at the Olympics for example, and many things could happen there changing those up.

As far as dirt sheets, they are just that (and very rarely correct) but are by far not encyclopedic, and should be treated as tentative rumours, which definitely shouldn't be listed either. Yes a mention of who the champions are currently would be fine, as well as listing the Raw Title Tournament seems well within reason, but things like Undertaker-Henry and such are simply rumours, no matter how true the insider info is, they have not been announced and should not be included.

One other thing that can me mentioned 'for sure' about WrestleMania this year is the Hall Of Fame Class of 2006. As in 2004 and 2005 the Class is inducted the night before the event and the Class then appears at Mania the next night. With Bret Hart confirmed today by WWE as the first inductee for 2006 this should be mentioned as well.

All other insider info and tidbits shouldn't be included, but the Mysterio-Orton 'right to face champion' definitely should, as that is 'scheduled' as scheduled as wrestling can be. - CyclopsScott 04:36, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Are You Friggin kiddin me. Everyone knows Harley Race will be inducted.

Yeah.. aren't you one of the morons who 'announced' that Randy Orton was going to win the Royal Rumble?

Edits to be made to page

Since WWE has finally begun properly advertising events for WM22, here are the following edits to be made to the front page:

• Matches

John Cena v. Triple H for the WWE Championship

Kurt Angle v. Randy Orton v. Rey Mysterio for the World Heavyweight Championship in a Triple Threat Match

• Hall of Fame

Bret Hart

Eddie Guerrero

Also, Big Time should be linked in the reference to the theme song of the event.

The Orton/Mysterio/Champion match shouldn't be added to the page until the winner of the Angle/Undertaker match is known. As far as any other matches or HOF entrants, they should be announced a reasonable time after the official announcement on Raw, Smackdown, or WWE.com. Anthony Hit me up... 13:58, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Championship Matches Confirmed

WWE.com's WrestleMania 22 Section has confirmed John Cena Vs. Triple H for the WWE Championship, and at last night's SmackDown! tapings, On-Screen GM Teddy Long announced a Triple Threat Match for the World Heavyweight Championship: Randy Orton Vs. Rey Mysterio Vs. The World Heavyweight Champion

Kurt Angle was not specifically mentioned for the Triple Threat Match, as a rematch between he and The Undertaker from No Way Out was also scheduled for next week's Raw/SmackDown! Supershow Taping in Washington D.C. The winner of that match will go on to WrestleMania 22.

Draft page

I've created a draft page for an updated version of the article for when the article's protection gets removed. I just want people's opinion on this, as I'm still a little bit iffy on the logo section. --Oakster 18:46, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

After all the changes that have been made months before the event itself I think we should wait 'till after the event ends to avoid more reverts --3bulletproof16 19:14, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

The page should probably be kept locked until the event has taken place. The moment it is unlocked, there will be a deluge of rumoured matches. The existing article has a link to the WWE page, which already has adequate information on the event. McPhail 21:50, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Agreed - the less articles being polluted with markboard speculation, the better. - Chadbryant 22:17, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough. It's a good idea anyway. --Oakster 22:18, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

I've unprotected this since it's been protected for far too long a period as it is. Protected pages are considered harmful and protection is usually brief at best. This article is nowhere near 'finished' and could use some good editing. That can't happen while its protected as demonstrated by the draft page above having nowhere to go. Anyone should be able to edit a Wiki article when they want to, so no, it's not going to remain protected for months to come. Simply handle the problems, politely, as they come. They won't be overwhelming, I'm sure. -Splash^talk 20:33, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

This Entry Is Still Part Of An Encyclopedia

I feel the need to remind anyone who might be tempted to cut & paste from "Billy's Bad-Ass Rasslin' News" or whatever other markboard they steal their wrestling-related rumours from that this entry (and every other entry on Wikipedia) is part of an encyclopedia, with rules and guidelines on article content, spelling, grammar, and style. It is frustrating to see a reputable editor fix this (and other) wrestling-related articles, only to have them filled once again with poorly-written speculation. - Chadbryant 21:28, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

In addition, the promoted lineup of the show should not be changed unless said change has been announced by WWE via television or their website. This includes "spoiler" info (i.e. anything occuring on taped programming that hasn't aired yet), rumors/speculation, or theoretical matchups in case of a title change between now and the event. - Chadbryant 03:07, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

The fact that you felt the need to use the term "markboard" demonstrates that you are as illiterate and ignorant about professional wrestling as those you would attempt to chastize in your remarks. Just as not everyone will feel that the Mona Lisa is not a work of art to be treasured through the ages, the same can be said and applied to professional wrestling websites in defining what does or does not identify it as a "markboard." Then of course there is your allegation of theft of information, yet you do not back up any of your allegations with proof or links...though a quick check of your history on Wikipedia shows this is not exactly something you are unfamiliar with, having attacked a user for being a "markboy" and "mark" for the particular handle he chose to register with.

I would suggest you refrain from attempting to chastize others on defining what is or is not a "markboard" until you yourself have had the opportunity to put down the cardboard sign and re-evaluate your own stance on how you view your relationship with others in regards to name-calling and labelling based on a simple edit on Wikipedia.

I also do not see how you are the authority on being able to define anything on what does or does not constitute an entry on this page. Please do not try to "armchair" this entry, as Wikipedia is a free forum to be edited by all. Should someone choose to post spoilers, they can simply label it as such and you can choose not to read them. --Eat At Joes 04:01, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Please see Template:Kayfabe for policy regarding spoilers. - Chadbryant 04:29, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Please stop ignoring my valid points and placing in your own. --Eat At Joes 04:40, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Please see Wikistalking. - Chadbryant 04:44, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Please see paranoia. --Eat At Joes 05:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Money In The Bank II

Does anyone know whether or not it will be 6 people or 3 because the way raw is pushing it it seems only like 3 people at this point.

• Considering all official sources all that's been confirmed is that there will be 3 people (Benjamin, Van Dam, Flair). However I think it's safe to assume that it'll be pushed up to 6 somehow within the next month, since it'd just be silly not to given that's how the original match was. MarcK 11:29, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

The other three competitors will come from the Smackdown roster. - Chadbryant 12:03, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Where do you get this reliable source of information, A "markboard". Your the same person who bash people for posting speculation, yet you post this. Since Smackdown hasn't aired yet and it wasn't announced on Raw then I wonder where you got that from. Vinnyxvincent 03:40, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

With all due respect, he was right. Bssc81 15:04, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

yes he was, as we found out on the March 6th Raw. However the reason I posted my statement was because he posted a rumor, which is the same thing he had been complaining about. If you look at the dates. I made my post before the episode of RAW aired. Vinnyxvincent 19:29, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

It is extremely likely that matt hardy will be one of the three smackdown superstars in this match (considering all the experience he has in ladder matches. Jman5 17:23, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Semi-Protection

I am considering requesting semi-protection on this article. A look at the history reveals a multitude of edits from unregistered users who are simply re-adding style-violating content (speculation, kayfabe, etc.) that the established editors constantly have to remove. I have decided to propose this action here before pursuing it, in order to recieve feedback from the community. - Chadbryant 02:17, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Note that WP:SEMI is very clear, in several places, that it is to be used for vandalism only. Note that WP:VAND is also quite clear on what constitutes vandalism. You will have to make the case that the edits amount to bad-faith editing with intent to disrupt if you request semi-protection. -Splash^talk 03:03, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I requested semi-protection a few days ago but it was rejected. Unfortunately, the majority of anonymous editors are, while poorly informed and semi-literate, not actively vandalising the page, per se. McPhail 13:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Finlay v. Lashley

I was tempted to add this match to the WM22 card now that it's been unprotected, however I realized it hasn't "officially" been announced despite the white hot heat they got for teasing and not delivering on it at the Smackdown from D.C. that just aired. Since there's been a lot of back and forth about "dirtsheets" and such I would like to propose the following - if this news is reported by WrestlingObserver, PWInsider or 411 Wrestling can we consider it "announced" even if it hasn't aired on TV yet? If they didn't do this match at WM22 not only would WWE be crazy but the entire pull-apart brawl on Smackdown would be pointless. I'll admit though that wouldn't be the first time Vince McMahon threw away a money match for no good reason. BronzeWarrior 09:15, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

This page (WrestleMania 22) is telling readers what has been announced to happen. Maybe it's obvious what match is going to happen, but it hasn't been officially announced, and therefore it is only a rumour. Maybe start a page for wrestling rumors on Wikipedia if you wanna post it so bad???

That's pretty rude considering (1.) I didn't post this information and (2.) I politely asked what the opinion was on posting it if announced online and (3.) Your post is unsigned and I'm therefore responding to an anonymous user. BronzeWarrior 02:14, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

don't post it until it's "officially" announced on Raw/SD(Heat/Velocity) or reported on wwe.com Perry8331 20:30, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I didn't. I just asked what qualified. For example Smackdown is taped Tuesday nights and the results are usually leaked, sometimes by WWE.com themselves, but often through newsletters like WOL. These are not "rumors" they're actual results. So I feel like if something is reported through one of these sites that actually took place at a taping, that's official. And thank you for signing your post. BronzeWarrior 22:19, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

It's okay to post it ahead of the airing if it's on wwe.com, like when Kurt Angle won the WHC and it was announced on wwe.com on Tuesday, before it aired Friday Perry8331 01:06, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't know if they posted this on WWE.com or not yet (haven't looked) but somebody has already added Undertaker v. Mark Henry in a casket match. This kind of thing is simply unavoidable when you have a publically edited site like Wikipedia. You can stop blatant speculation, but you can't stop people from posting results from a show they either saw live in person or already read reports before. For better or worse the wrestling editors on the site such as those of us in WikiProWrestling will not post spoilers if asked not to but that won't stop the other 95% of the public. BronzeWarrior 21:32, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I do believe the match in question is actually going to be a qualifying match for Money in the Bank. I don't read results but I saw a non spoiler that listed Finley vs. Lashley for this week's Smackdown.Vinnyxvincent 01:35, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Understood but as I said about Taker v. Henry I'm not surprised to see somebody already edited this info into the page. Events move in real time even when shows are on tape delay and it's hard to keep this information from disseminating in the computer age. BronzeWarrior 04:56, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

This match is still unofficial (as of now), but it looks likely it will happen, considering all the buildup, they are having between the two. Plus, look at the brand's uneven match amounts. RAW has 4 matches announced and SmackDown! has 3 matches announced, plus there is the Money in the bank interpromotional match. Jman5 07:52, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

LMAO and yet again the IWC know-it-alls got it WRONG, as always...!!!! - Matt

I believe this can be used as evidence as to why IWC news sites cannot be used as official announcements. Finlay vs. Lashley will not be happening, as we now know. Make no mistake, I read these sites all the time, but it has been proven that these sites are not always 100% correct. And I believe that taping results should be delayed until Friday night, unless an official source such as wwe.com has it listed (as happened when Kurt Angle won the belt.) Eenu (talk) 19:49, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually considering both Finlay and Lashley are Money in the Bank, I'd say technically speaking they are still facing each other, and the IWC was not wrong. Calling the IWC know-it-alls is the pot calling the kettle black anyway since Wikipedia is part of the IWC. BronzeWarrior 23:01, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

UnderTaker Vs Mark Herny in casket Match

i know it has not been told yet but i went to a wrestling spolier site and it said that the Undertaker will face Mark Herny in a casket match

yes it is true, but please do not post the match as it has not been "officially" announced Perry 01:46, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

67.141.243.228 15:48, 9 March 2006 (UTC) Well I personally feel that the Undertaker vs. Mark H-E-N-R-Y Casket Match and the SmackDown participants in the "Money In the Bank" Ladder Match should be left off the main page until they are either announced on WWE.com or their television show(s) and for the record, neither of the two have been announced (as of 03/09/06) on the WrestleMania sub-site of wwe.com). Just because some "Wrestling Insider" website announces a match or participants to a match, it shouldn't be taken as truth. People come to Wikipedia (and similiar sites) to gain information and knowledge. If this site is supposed to be a true encyclopedia, then it should be treated as such meaning no future spoilers or events of any kind should be reported on this or any other wrestling-related webpage on Wikipedia. I won't delete anything off the main page, but someone else should. (Update 1:49 p.m./March 9, 2006) O.K., I came back to check on this page and see someone has added a Steve Austin vs. Bret Hart "Legends Match" on the list of WrestleMania matches. We all know that information is false and needs to be deleted. Maybe I'm little over the top but I think that qualifies as vandalism and at least some kind of protection needs to be put on this page to preserve the integry of the information set within.

so i think that the Wrestlemania 22 card

Well I think this is the Wrestlemania 22 card and i think its a very good card i don't think there will be anymore matchs i think this is i. Whoever put Austin Vs Bret Hart your carzy becuase that is never going to happen.

It's a good PPV card, but a decent WrestleMania card. Last year you knew matches like Angle/HBK, Eddie/Rey, Orton/Taker would deliver. This year it seems each match (with the exception of the 3-way) has a 50/50 chance of being good. Perry 20:21, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree, people overlook the card, and expect it to contain a HBK-Bret Hart 5 star classic. However, I am doubtful it will top last year's wrestlemania, but I am still looking forward to it. Jman5 07:48, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

As retarded as the build-up initially was, I'm actually looking forward to the Vince v. HBK match now. I'll pop if Michaels gives him a nice superkick to the chin and knocks him the F out; so if you see a guy in the front row wearing an F4W "tilde bang" hat go crazy for it that's me. :) BronzeWarrior 09:22, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't really wanna watch Mr. McMahon in the ring again, lets face it, he is not a certified wrestler. Jman5 03:32, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree. That's why HBK kicking his ass is the only possible good outcome. BronzeWarrior 03:25, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Trivia section

Why was my trivia section deleted? I thought it added some interesting tidbits to the page, and every previous WM page has them. Personally I think the 3RR violations regarding the "For the" are getting ridiculous, but that's just me. Anthony Hit me up... 21:19, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Ask the person who deleted it. I think it's close enough to WM to add a trivia section. "For the" is standard for WrestleMania articles, it should stay. Perry 21:23, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Go ahead and re-insert the information. It is relevant to the article. Thanks. TruthCrusader 18:01, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Why is Finlay on there

Smackdown is this firday and we still don't konw who going to be on the money and the bank ladder match from the samckdown three stars so why has someone put finlay on there that should be removed puls, I really don't think finlay will win I like lashley to win it

• First off, sign your name and date with four tildes. Secondly, your spelling is atrocious. Having gotten that out of the way, I agree with you that, in the interest of kayfabe and as per the standard of all wrestling pages, things that occur on Smackdown! should not be posted until after it airs on Friday night. Thank you for fixing someone's overzealous efforts to alter the page. Anthony Hit me up... 17:24, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I think that spoiler information like that should be edited in once word of it comes out. If this were a wrestling message board, then spoilers should go away. But this is supposed to be an encyclopedia, and I think that on an encyclopedia, we shouldn't hold back known information. tv316 21:47, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

There are no spoilers on the page because that is the policy of Wikipedia. If you don't like it, lobby to change the policy. In the meantime, anything that happens Tuesday night at the tapings doesn't get posted on the site until Friday night after Smackdown! airs. Anthony Hit me up... 23:31, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

uh ya but, what if you live in, say, Canada? We get SmackDown on thursdays. We have the right to edit it when we see it. --Killswitch Engage 23:09, 24 March 2006 (UTC)Killswitch Engage