Talk:Wychbury Obelisk

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It strikes me that the comment about the Cobhams' "generosity" is rather POV; I certainly know a number of people who are of the opinion that Lord C would be delighted to see the thing fall down, though of course that's POV the other way. (I live in Bewdley, and can see the obelisk from a few hundred yards from my house.) I keep meaning to rewrite this anyway, if I can find a free photo... Loganberry (Talk) 04:28, 22 September 2005 (UTC)


I do not think that this article needs expanding; it is reasonably complete as it is; I would recommend the removal of that designation. There is a separate article on Wychbury Hill and another on Hagley. Possibly, a wider articel on the landscaping of the park around Hagley Hall might be useful, but perhaps it would be better as an expansion of the article on Hagley Hall. Peterkingiron 21:19, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

There's also a separate article about Bella (though I doubt its notability for the WP), so I've moved it to here in case anyone really wants to put it back. Personally, I think follies should be kept to the main article about the manor they belong to; on the other hand, I've got a rather interesting gazeebo in my garden...
The body was found by four young men from Stourbridge Town who were out poaching. They decided to look in a nearby tree for a birds nest but the one farmer found a skull which he believed to be of an animal but after he also discovered some human hair and teeth he knew it was human. As they were trespassing on private land they decided not to tell anyone. Gradually it was taken and forensics found it to be the skull of a woman, later on a severed hand was also found. She was believed to be murdered. 'She' is now Bella and is now a well told story. Many children are still scared to go there due to this murder mystery.
--Kudpung (talk) 11:55, 4 July 2009 (UTC)


Scaffolding was put round it in March, and word is it's being fully repaired. The consensus it should be left to fall down seems to be over, but I can't find a reliable source saying it's being repaired, so I left the article as it is. (talk) 11:33, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

I presume this to be part of a programme of repairs being undertaken by the present Lord Cobham, but I doubt we will get a reliable source until some "opening" event when the work is completed. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:19, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Hagley or Wychbury Obelisk[edit]

I suggest that the article is moved to Hagley Obelisk rather than Wychbury Obelisk because although both names are used neither is particularly common.

However it is much better known in architecture and literary circles by a name with Hagley in it thanks to its connection with the rest of the Hagley Hall park lands and associated follies which were considered by the lovers of the Picturesque to be worth fawning over. It also has connections under that name to the poet William Shenstone and his house the Leasowes. -- PBS (talk) 20:06, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Object -- the hill on which it stands is called Wychbury. It is a landmark visible from many miles around, which gives it a notability wider than the park. The only two features of the landscaping of Hagley Park north of A456 Road (the busiest A-road in Worcestershire are it and the Temple of Theseus. This separates these from the rest of the park. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:24, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
Object -- neither is right in my opinion. It was called Wychbury Monument when I lived there in the 1960s and 1970s and I don't understand why that isn't the heading. Yes, it is an obelisk, and yes, Hagley is nearby, but Hagley Obelisk is an entirely made-up name. If nobody objects, I'll change it back to Wychbury Monument. Allen Brown (talk) 08:53, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
Still objecting -- Looks like I'm not allowed to do that. I checked with the secretary of the Black Country Society, also like me a local lad, and he agrees it was always called Wychbury Monument. The term "Hagley Obelisk" is a neologism. On foot, it's as close to Pedmore as it is to Hagley; well that's how I used to cycle up to it anyway. By the way, while I'm in nostalgia mode, the t-junction at the bottom of the hill going down into Hagley (where the A491 meets the A456) was always known as 'The Cattle Market' (as in 'take a left at the cattle market') long after the cattle market itself had gone. Pity that these local junction names are being lost. Allen Brown (talk) 16:13, 21 August 2016 (UTC)