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Other Latter Day Saint groups ideas of Zion

I'm with the Restoration Branches ... the Community of Christ, Remnant Church, Temple Lot Church and others have views on Zion as well. Why is this article specifically about Mormons? --Nerd42 03:37, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

list any distinctions in usage and we'll adjust the article (and the title, too). Zion in Joseph's usage was common to us all, but probably has independently evolved since his time. The bottom paragraph deals with the Utah Saints and we could have paragraphs for each other offshoot as well. I'll make an adjustment to the topic sentence, but hold off on any other changes. WBardwin 00:08, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

City of Zion

City of Zion currently redirects here. I plan to break it back into a separate article so that I can create an article about Independence, the eviction from Jackson County, and the current temple. This in turn would be part of a Mormon War template to trace the events in the 1830s and aftermath. Americasroof 16:39, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is a good idea. Although Latter-day Saints believe that the City of Enoch was the original, "City of Zion" could refer to many things. A disambiguation, with articles on Latter-day Saint believes in their own section, would be appropriate. Mghoffmann (talk) 17:30, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

History

Was very surprised that the History section completely skips the Utah Territory years where the Utah LDS Church leaders made enormous efforts to lead the Saints to build Zion communities. I personally have gathered over 500 quotes from leaders like Brigham Young, John Taylor, Wilford Woodruff, George Q. Cannon, Erastus Snow, George A. Smith, Joseph F. Smith, etc. where it is very clear that they were actively pursuing the building of real, live, brick-and-mortar Zion communities in Utah.

John Taylor, for example, gave 80 talks in his years as a church leader in early Utah; he mentions "Zion" in 78 of the 80 talks. And, in 81.25% of his talks he either mentioned Enoch's Zion, or, he spoke about building Zion in the here and now. Taylor even went so far as to comment, multiple times, that the purpose of the Saints being in Utah was to build Zion, and, that the the whole point of the Saints receiving the priesthood was so that they could build Zion.

Given the above, I propose a paragraph be added to the History section outlining the following concepts taught by early LDS leaders in Utah with links to supporting quotes:

Early Utah LDS leaders expressed their determination that a Zion society was to be built in Utah.
They taught that God wants a Zion built in Utah,
That building Zion was the whole point of them gathering to Utah,
That they were actively pursuing the goal of building Zion in Utah, and
That their efforts to build Zion in Utah was a direct fulfillment of the prophesies about Zion.

Would you support adding such a paragraph, or, do you feel such a paragraph would be a "deal-killer" for you?

FreedomWorks! (talk) 03:17, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Freedomworks: Sounds great – I can’t wait! Please add it and include citations to your sources. —LLarson (said & done) 13:32, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Zion is also, according to Joseph Smith, the entirety of the Americas

This statement by Joseph Smith is indeed true. But the 'Americas' of his day was three groups. Spanish America later called Mexico and the nations of Central America, Our America the United States of America, and British America later named Canada. When the Prophet said those words it includes all the Americas of his day from the Panama Canal to the norther provinces of Canada. This is all North America only. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.52.241.209 (talk) 19:27, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]