Template:Did you know nominations/Andrew Barclay (bookbinder)

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 07:15, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Andrew Barclay (bookbinder)

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Andrew Barclay, bookbinding trade label

... ~~that Andrew Barclay (his trade label shown), a common bookbinder in Boston, was given a command by Sir Guy Carleton to take Loyalist refugees to Shelburne, Nova Scotia?~~
ALT1 ... that Andrew Barclay (his trade label shown), a ~~common~~ bookbinder in colonial Boston, was given a command by British general Carleton to take Loyalist refugees to Nova Scotia? — Source: French, 1962, pp.155 ...where he was honoured by Sir Guy Carleton, Commander-in-Chief, with the charge of a company of loyalist bound for Shelburne, Nova Scotia, and settled there.

- Reviewed - Template:Did you know nominations/Early American publishers and printers
- Comment: Statement and source supporting hook can be found in the lede and in the second to the last paragraph in the 'Bookbinder' section

Created by Gwillhickers (talk). Self-nominated at 21:03, 21 March 2022 (UTC).

I will review. How about this as a hook? (As it stands now, it's not obvious why the picture is a must-have.)
- ALT2 ... that bookbinders’ signature trade labels such as this one from Loyalist Andrew Barclay (pictured) were a rarity in 18th-century colonial America? Cielquiparle (talk) 12:56, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
Otherwise ALT1 seems interesting enough, and is indeed supported in the article. The one issue that jumps out is the use of the word "common" which has somewhat different meanings in British and American English. (It sounds old-fashioned and could be perceived as a value judgement about "class".) For this reason, I would strongly recommend avoiding use of that word if possible. (It seems like you don't even really need an adjective there.) Cielquiparle (talk) 18:13, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- New. Long. Neutral. Has inline citations. No copy vio. Hook ALT1 is OK. QPQ is done. Writing is clear. The one part that was a bit confusing was the paragraph about signature trade labels. It is interesting, but the placement of it disrupts the flow of the article a bit. I might have put it elsewhere in the article, but it's ok where it is. Another suggestion is that you could include a sentence referring to the trade labels in the lede. Cielquiparle (talk) 20:14, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

@Cielquiparle:, Thanks for your prompt review and advice. i.e. I added a statement about trade labels to the lede. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 19:46, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Modified ALT1 to T:DYK/P4