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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 21:22, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Chamber of the Holocaust[edit]

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Created/expanded by 205.156.84.229 (talk). Nominated by Yngvadottir (talk) at 18:06, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

  • Date, length, images, sources fine. Hook supported. I think perhaps the hook could use a slight tweaking. The word Holocaust is used three times in the hook, which I think is a bit much. How about:
  • ALT1... that the Chamber of the Holocaust was Israel's first Holocaust museum, established in 1949, soon after the end of World War II? Anne (talk) 04:48, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Or go for the short-and-snappy option:
ALT2... that the Chamber of the Holocaust was Israel's first Holocaust museum? Moswento (talk | contribs) 11:37, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
  • I like that one even better. If there are no objections from the nominator, I recommend that we go with that. Anne (talk) 21:39, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
  • I pulled the hook out of prep because I discovered that the article does not have a footnote for the hook fact. Also, the source cited in the following sentence indicates that the site "served as Israel's tribute to the Holocaust until Yad Vashem opened", but it does not specifically say it was the first museum (although a reader might infer that). I did not find another source to substitute. This website (which looks like it might be more reliable than some sources cited in the article) states that it was the "the first site in the new State of Israel to honor the memory of Holocaust victims," but that's not the same as saying "first museum". The hook likely needs revision. Additionally, though, the article could benefit from additional sources. --Orlady (talk) 01:44, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
I've dropped a note on the IP's talk page (as noted above, I just acted for them because unregistered editors can't create templates). I am thinking they may not realize non-English-language sources are ok. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:16, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
That would work, except that the hook fact needs to be in the article -- and its source needs to be cited in the article. I was hoping that someone familiar with the subject matter would edit the article appropriately. --Orlady (talk) 18:01, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
  • I just looked at the article again. It seems that the page creator based most of the original on, and even copied, the Hebrew Jerusalem Municipality site. I dug up lots of reliable references and fixed everything up. However, the central graphic seems out of place. Is there any way to make it a horizontal bar?
  • Also, the hook is really dull. How about:
  • ALT4: ... that Israel's Chamber of the Holocaust museum includes urns with the ashes of victims from 36 Nazi death camps? Yoninah (talk) 23:55, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Good to go, with ALT4, please. I reconfigured the image -- that was an excellent suggestion, Yoninah. --Orlady (talk) 03:24, 17 May 2012 (UTC) Giving Yoninah credit as co-creator. --Orlady (talk) 03:26, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
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