Template:Did you know nominations/History of education in Wales (1701–1870)
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The result was: promoted by Polyamorph talk 12:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
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History of education in Wales (1701–1870)
- ... that in 1821 approximately 85% of Welsh children were not in school?
- Source: Keane, Ann; Egen, David; Grigg, Russell; Roy, James; Morgen, Alun; Norris, Barry; Williams, Sian Rhiannon (2022). Watchdogs or Visionaries? Perspectives on the history of the education inspectorate in Wales. University of Wales Press. ISBN 978-1786839404. (page 39)
- ALT1: ... that travelling 18th century schools educated around half the population of Wales? Source: Jones, Gareth Elwyn; Roderick, Gordon Wynne (2003). History of Education in Wales. University of Wales Press. ISBN 978-0708318089. (Pages 31 to 45)
- ALT2: ... that many 19th century Welsh speaking parents supported their children being educated in English and punished for speaking Welsh? Source: (1)Grigg, G.R. (2005). "'Nurseries of ignorance'? Private adventure and dame schools for the working classes in nineteenth‐century Wales". History of Education Quarterly. 34 (3): 243–262. doi:10.1080/00467600500065126. ISSN 0046-760X – via Taylor & Francis.(2)https://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/history/sites/themes/society/language_education.shtml
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Marie Marcks
Improved to Good Article status by Llewee (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.
Llewee (talk) 13:02, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
- I'd be happy to review this nomination. I will get back tomorrow when I have had time to read it and check the nomination against the criteria. Yakikaki (talk) 21:49, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
The article was recently promoted to GA, and is thus new, long and well-written enough. Qpq has been made and there is no picture. Hooks are good, and supported by inline citations - except the last one, for which I cannot find the inline citation supporting the part of the claim that many parents supported their children being educated in English. Could you please add it or point me to it? Otherwise this should be good to go. Yakikaki (talk) 12:43, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Yakikaki, thank you for reviewing this nomination. In regards to ALT2, Grigg 2005 cites the text "Private working-class schools largely taught in English, reflecting the belief of Welsh-speaking parents that learning English was necessary for social mobility. A minority taught in both Welsh and English." The BBC News article cites the text "The Welsh Not would become a focus of great bitterness in the long term. However, according to historian John Davies, when it was used at the time it would have been with the endorsement of parents." Llewee (talk) 14:34, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
