Template:Did you know nominations/Hunedoara steel works
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The result was: promoted by Miyagawa (talk) 19:28, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Hunedoara steel works
[edit]- ... that under the Communist regime, Hunedoara was the largest Romanian city dependent on a single industry, centered around its steel works?
Created by Biruitorul (talk). Self nom at 15:21, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
- This really is a great article, the most recent in a brilliant series, but I see a problem with the hook. There is no citation immediately after the fact - though, normally, I would not think of this as a problem, as long as there is a more generic citation for the fact in the same group of phrases (give or take a few words); it's only reasonable that the prerequisite of a citation right after the fact is not as strict as to interfere with logical flow and common sense. In this case, the nearest citation is through a financing request issued by the Mayor's Office, which seems quite legit, but not for generic facts - more for what the city claims about itself. If that is the case, I think the hook and the phrase in the article would be best rephrased as "is claimed to have been", "has a claim to being" et al. But I suspect that other, third-party, sources already used in the article also verify the fact, and maybe if you could add citations to all of them right after the fact, the hook itself would be verified.
Needless to say by this point: date, length, phrasing, sourcing (with the aforementioned "proviso") are all okay, and the Romanian reference is verified by me. Dahn (talk) 16:47, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
- This really is a great article, the most recent in a brilliant series, but I see a problem with the hook. There is no citation immediately after the fact - though, normally, I would not think of this as a problem, as long as there is a more generic citation for the fact in the same group of phrases (give or take a few words); it's only reasonable that the prerequisite of a citation right after the fact is not as strict as to interfere with logical flow and common sense. In this case, the nearest citation is through a financing request issued by the Mayor's Office, which seems quite legit, but not for generic facts - more for what the city claims about itself. If that is the case, I think the hook and the phrase in the article would be best rephrased as "is claimed to have been", "has a claim to being" et al. But I suspect that other, third-party, sources already used in the article also verify the fact, and maybe if you could add citations to all of them right after the fact, the hook itself would be verified.
Thanks for catching that; I've reworded accordingly (couldn't find any other source to back it up) as well as supplied some alt hooks. - Biruitorul Talk 17:19, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
- ALT 1: ... that under the Communist regime, Hunedoara is claimed to have been the largest Romanian city dependent on a single industry, centered around its steel works?
- ALT 2: ... that the blast furnaces at the Hunedoara steel works in Hunedoara, Romania were shut down 115 years to the day after the first such units were inaugurated there?
- ALT 3: ... that under the Communist regime, the Hunedoara steel works in Hunedoara, Romania employed both villagers from nearby and peasants compelled to move there from the Moldavia and Muntenia regions?
- ALT 4: ... that early attempts to produce steel at the Hunedoara steel works in what is now Hunedoara, Romania first resulted in poor-quality metal and then in the rebuilt machinery being destroyed by fire?
