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Joseph Gotthardt

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The result was: promoted by Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle}

• ... that after five previous attempts to evangelise the Kavango people in German South-West Africa, Joseph Gotthardt's journeys eventually led to the establishment of a mission station in 1910?

• Reviewed: Malari incident
• Comment: Cannot find the diff anymore, happened 3 days ago

Created by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 12:11, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

• (diff here) Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:48, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Please add a comment and signature (or just a signature if endorsing) after each aspect you have reviewed:
Hook

• Length, format, content rules: Marrante (talk) 17:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
• Source: Marrante (talk) 17:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
• Interest: low. Marrante (talk) 17:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
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Article

• Length: Marrante (talk) 17:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
• Vintage: Marrante (talk) 17:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
• Sourcing (V, RS, BLP): Marrante (talk) 17:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
• Neutrality: Marrante (talk) 17:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
• Plagiarism/close paraphrasing: Online ref is not paraphrased, etc., can't check offline second ref; it won't open for me. Marrante (talk) 17:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC) Amended. Marrante (talk) 09:45, 2 August 2011 (UTC) All set now, no p/cp. Marrante (talk) 13:55, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
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Comments/discussion:

• Not too sure about that "mission" as a verb. I'm not even sure what it's supposed to mean. Also, wouldn't that be "five previous attempts" since Gotthardt successfully made the sixth?

  Thanks for your review. I have addressed your concerns below: --Pgallert (talk) 07:47, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

  1. "To mission" was supposed to mean "to work as missionary" but I'm not sure, either. Replaced with "evangelise" in the hook.
  2. It was five previous attempts, and Gotthardt made a further two. Only after his second attempt (the seventh overall) he was successful. I have slightly reworded the hook to represent that situation more clearly (five previous, and Gotthardt's journeys)
  3. What do you mean by offline ref? Both refs have urls.

• I saw the URL, but because it links only the subject's name, I mistook it for something other than the text cited and was rushing, so did not click on it. I'm trying to get there now, but the link is not opening for me. I think the replacement of the verb and number are improvements. Don't quite know what to make of this ref that is not opening, though. After a long wait, I got "Failed to open page" because the server dropped the connection. I'm ready to approve this, but need to know from someone more experienced than I if this is an issue with the ref that failed to open. Marrante (talk) 09:45, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

• I tried it this morning, and just now again. Takes a while but opens for me. --Pgallert (talk) 11:05, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Just now, it opened right up, no wait at all. Must have been a coffee problem.

This nom good to go! — Marrante (talk) 13:55, 2 August 2011 (UTC)