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Error message and tracking category for unsupported parameters[edit]

I have added error tracking for unsupported parameters to this template. See Category:Pages using infobox video game with unknown parameters. A red error message appears when you Preview the article, between the edit screen and the rendered preview. In the category, the articles are sorted by the name of the parameter that is unsupported.

I have added this error-checking to a number of heavily used infoboxes, and it usually goes smoothly, highlighting errors that improve the articles that end up in the category. Every once in a while, parameters are missed or something goes wrong. If that happens, don't panic, just post here and I will be happy to fix it. Revert the change if you feel that you must.

If I have made any mistakes in coding, or if template changes are desired, please let me know.

One additional thought: since Category:Infobox video game with deprecated parameters is almost empty, it probably makes sense to finally remove those parameters from the template (and from the new supported parameter check, and from the documentation). The new error category will catch any subsequent uses of those no-longer-supported parameters. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:06, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

One parameter that is in the documentation but not in the template is |show image=. Anyone know about what should be done with that parameter? – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:23, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
Remove it? It seems to be a thing from that past that I've never personally seen used. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 07:07, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Infoboxes – optional plural parameters – removing (s) from labels[edit]

Hi! I've started a discussion at WP:VPR#Infoboxes – optional plural parameters – removing (s) from labels about the possibility of removing "(s)" from the end of labels in infoboxes, and as I just came across an article with it in, used this infobox as an example of one with lots of these "(s)" labels. I'd like to know what your thoughts are in general about having optional "plural" parameters (e.g. |genres= as an alias for |genre=, with labels to match), and, depending on the outcome of the discussion, whether you think this would be a suitable template for a trial run, since this seems to be a lively, well-watched template. ‑‑YodinT 20:39, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Generally, this is not a bad idea, however, there is one huge problem: Every page using that infobox, almost 22 thousand, have their parameters adapted to the current format, regardless of plural or not. Hence, if you would default the current fields, except for platforms, to singular, every instance of multiple entities in a field would be put alongside a content description depcting a single one. This template is almost 13 years old now, and it has grown up without singular/plural differentiation, so it should probably kept without. Lordtobi () 21:04, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Ok, no worries :) At Template:Infobox book (38k!), this was considered, and the prevailing thought was that readers would probably not notice singular labels (i.e. that "Genre: Detective, Horror" was less bad than "Genre(s): Detective, Horror"), and editors who wanted to make the infobox grammatically correct could make the change when they noticed it. ‑‑YodinT 21:16, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
But that's not the point. By that logic, if readers would not notice the missing pluralism, they would also not notice if it was gramatically correct anyways. So why bother changing it in the first place? And once it would be pushed through, you cannot expect a lot of changes going down, editors would not care enough to change it every time they come across such a "wrong-grammar" case, and that being 15 years of articles. By a slight chance, editors might take an eye when writing new infoboxes, for new articles, and consider them. Note also that the Visual Editor just wouldn't care as well. Even if you put all those things aside, the small fraction of infoboxes actually being adapted would cause and incredible inconsistency between 2k with and 20k without adaption. Horrible!, especially considering that it would be used on pretty much every parameter. A better example for what you would want to achieve is Template:Infobox company, in which a total of 5 parameters uses optional plurals, however, even there the inconsistency is large; although founders, successors and predecessors are semi-frequently put correctly, the other two, owners and areas_served, are usually singularized, for whatever reason. (I might as well argue why Subsidiaries and Divisions are default plural, or parent default singular, without optional other-case parameter, but that is for another time.) Therefore, I hope you understand why I'm saying that is a nicely-thought idea, but set in sand and unlikely to find big support among the editor masses. Lordtobi () 21:55, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Opposed To implementing singular/plural parameter pairs. It really bloats the template code, and readers understand just fine as is, and creates extra effort for editors to ensure the right form is used in each article. -- ferret (talk) 21:57, 29 December 2016 (UTC)