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Auckland Lions
[edit]Why was this entry removed? Bongomanrae 04:24, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
St George and Illawarra colours are too similar
[edit](Not St George Illawarra). Can something be done to make them different, such as inverting the colours for Illawarra (They were never in the same comp as the 1908-9 newcastle team) Bevstarrunner (talk) 08:27, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
New Zealand
[edit]How long have the New Zealand colours been black and grey? Didn't they used to be black and white? The national sides colours are black and white and that is what they should be. Black and grey is the colours of the Warriors. Mattlore (talk) 20:24, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Separate the two teams?
[edit]I think they should be separated. Especially since the Warriors colours are now black, white and red.
I just knocked up a few possible replacements:
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5 stripes, black-based
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3 stripes
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5 stripes, white-based
I prefer the first one (even if it looks like a hot dog).
Cashie (talk) 05:16, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
NRL All Stars games
[edit]I know they won't be used much, but should there be icons for these games? I would imagine similar icons for New Zealand Maori, etc.
I'm not entirely happy with the Indigenous icon, but I uploaded it for balance's sake. Cashie (talk) 13:33, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Image link update
[edit]File:Manly colours.svg needs updating to File:Manly Colors (1950-2007).svg Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:03, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Edit request on 4 May 2013
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The teams in Super League and RFL Championships need updating, as some of the information (team names, colours) are out of date, while some teams (Hemel Stags, Oxford RL and Gloucestershire) are missing
Sf07 (talk) 17:42, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
- Perhaps you could make your changes to Template:League icon/sandbox and then reactivate this request? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:38, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 13 November 2015
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Add to international teams: |canada=Canadacolours.png
Dannys-777 (talk) 03:37, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
- Done -- John of Reading (talk) 07:33, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 13 November 2015
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Add to international teams:
|serbia=Serbiacolours.png |jamaica=Jamaicacolours.png
Dannys-777 (talk) 18:43, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
- Done -- John of Reading (talk) 19:07, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 13 November 2015
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Last one :) Add to international teams:
|spain=Spaincolours.png
Dannys-777 (talk) 19:21, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
- Done :) John of Reading (talk) 21:53, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 30 January 2018
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Can the Penrith Panthers league icon be replaced with "File:Penrith Panthers square flag icon with 2017 colours.svg" as this is the current color set for the Penrith Panthers. Stidball (talk) 02:04, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:40, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 24 September 2018
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Add to international teams:
|chile=Chilecolours.png |greece=Greececolours.png
Dannys-777 (talk) 20:35, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
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Would it be possible to get "File:Townsville Blackhawks colours.png" or something similar/better as the leagueicon for the Townsville Blackhawks? People have using the Ireland icon for Townsville as they don't have one of their own. Notoriousxxx (talk) 12:45, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
- Not done (not yet) @Notoriousxxx: it isn't clear what you would like to have changed, please make your edit in Template:League icon/sandbox and test it, when ready reactivate the edit request above. If you just want to discuss the change, you can continue below. — xaosflux Talk 16:01, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux: Sorry. I have no idea what I'm doing. I want this -> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Townsville_Blackhawks_colours.png, to be the icon for the Townsville Blackhawks. So when I use the the leagueicon|Townsville it will show up, instead of using the similar coloured icon of a different team. I have no idea how to change that or make it happen. Notoriousxxx (talk) 22:14pm, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Done as
{{leagueicon|Townsville Blackhawks}}
not{{leagueicon|Townsville}}
to avoid ambiguity & confusion with{{leagueicon|Townsville Stingers}}
. {{leagueicon|Townsville Blackhawks}}
→- -- Cabayi (talk) 08:02, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
Propose Change to Penrith Panthers Icon (2020 Onwards)
[edit]Suggest changing the current Penrith Panthers League Icon to the following as the white is no longer officially used as part of the clubs colour scheme.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Stidball (talk • contribs) 03:54, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 30 July 2022
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Change "Northern Raiders colors.png" to "Northern Raiders colors.svg". --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:30, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 17 November 2022
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Suggestion to add this to the NRL section for the use as the Dolphins icon as distinct from the heritage Redcliffe colours in the Queensland section.
If it could be invoked with "leagueicon Dolphins" in the regular formatting, that would work for articles where this should be used instead of the heritage Redcliffe colours.
Apologies that I couldn't add this in svg format. Storm machine (talk) 03:50, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
- Completed.
{{leagueicon|dolphins}}
→ . P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'r there 11:07, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Edit request 22 November 2022
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Add current colours (amber/black) for York RLFC teams - York Knights and York Valkyrie, the club changed from blue/white c.2018.
|York RLFC=YorkRLFCcolours.png
EdwardUK (talk) 18:16, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'r there 10:55, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
Edit request 23 November 2022
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Could the York City Knights colours (blue/white) be restored (in addition to the York RLFC colours) but marked as not current/old colours in the documentation as for example is done for Penrith. These colours were worn between 2003 and 2017 so it would be more accurate to keep these for representing the team in articles covering league and cup articles for this period.
|york city|york city knights=Yorkcolours.svg
EdwardUK (talk) 12:32, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'r there 14:29, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
Edit request 25 November 2022
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Description of suggested change: Cook Islands and South Africa
Currently, Cook Islands and South Africa are using the same green and gold/yellow PNG file as Australia.
In the recent Word Cup Cook Islands wore predominantly white and green, with a touch of yellow/gold.
Might we have a change to have an independent Cook Islands logo, with white as well as green and yellow/gold? Either
- Green top-left, thin white stripe, yellow/gold bottom-right; or
- White top-left, thick green stripe, yellow/gold bottom-right
As for South Africa, might we flip the colours? Nhoj1898 (talk) 20:52, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Neither c:Category:SVG rugby league flag icons (squared) and c:Category:Rugby league flag icons (squared) have anything like you suggest, so it would take uploading of new squared flag icon images under the WP:COMMONS copyright rules. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'r there 14:17, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Paine,
- Ihank you for your reply. With an apology for a delay due to work commitments, I have just uploaded Cook Islands and South Africa options to Category:Rugby league flag icons (squared). On reflection, I have gone with a 4 stripe icon for Cook Islands Yellow Green White Green seemed prudent, at least to me.
- If your are okay with my suggestions, then please upload to the template.
- Happy to repeat the exercise if you have a different preference.
- Regards, John Moriarty @Nhoj1898 Nhoj1898 (talk) 23:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
- Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'r there 04:27, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 23 March 2023
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I would suggest adding "link=" after all the teams to prevent redirecting to a png photo after the icon is clicked ChampsRT (talk) 11:27, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- For attribution purposes, I believe you would need to confirm that every such image is in the public domain — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:10, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry what does confirming every image is in public domain means? I've tried it on the /sandbox for this template and it works ChampsRT (talk) 00:54, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Why do you think your suggestion will improve this template? (and in the future, be sure to sync the sandbox to the live template's code before you add your edit.) Also, your sandbox edit does test okay on the [testcases page] P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 06:40, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- I think delinking the images will reduce the chances of users misclicking and getting redirected onto an image, this "method" has been used on widely-used templates such as Template:Goal and Template:Try ChampsRT (talk) 09:08, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- If you click File:Canadacolours.png then under licencing it says the image is the the public domain. We can only delink the images which are in the public domain, so it means you need to check every image that you want to delink. Does that make sense? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:33, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ah, misunderstood you, Martin. Thought you meant that it's easier to check for PD if
|link=
isn't used. Evidently you are instead concerned that the existing images are PD. And of course they should be PD in order to be used in this template. I checked all of these just the other day, and they are all on Commons and are all in the public domain. As far as I know, the|link=
parameter can only be applied to all the images at once, as has been done in the sandbox. I see no way to apply the parameter to each individual image. Do you? P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 11:49, 25 March 2023 (UTC)- I haven't looked into the code but I'm sure it would be possible to do that if necessary (hopefully it will not be). Just because it's on Commons doesn't mean it is public domain. Other licences require attribution - if I find the correct policy I'll link it! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:19, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Link
WP:PDIMOS:PDI — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:16, 26 March 2023 (UTC)- Well, I seldom work with copyright issues, because I find them to sometimes be very complicated. I was under the impression, though, that as long as an image has been approved by Commons, where images must be free globally, then they can be used on the English Wikipedia without question. Examples would be in Country data templates, Infoboxes and Team templates like this one. If this is wrong, then I and many other editors have placed a lot of images incorrectly. Maybe it's my ignorance of the difference between free/no copyright and public domain? I thought that for our purposes, there is no difference. So if we cannot assume that all Commons images are available for use without having to specifically check for images that are PD, that throws a huge fly in the ointment! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 10:38, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry if I've been unclear. I agree that copyright is complicated. Commons images can be used freely. The issue here is whether the image can be used without attribution (which is provided by a link to the file description page). — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:24, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yes that MOS link is much better. Thank you so much, Martin, for your clarifyin'! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 11:56, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry if I've been unclear. I agree that copyright is complicated. Commons images can be used freely. The issue here is whether the image can be used without attribution (which is provided by a link to the file description page). — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:24, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Well, I seldom work with copyright issues, because I find them to sometimes be very complicated. I was under the impression, though, that as long as an image has been approved by Commons, where images must be free globally, then they can be used on the English Wikipedia without question. Examples would be in Country data templates, Infoboxes and Team templates like this one. If this is wrong, then I and many other editors have placed a lot of images incorrectly. Maybe it's my ignorance of the difference between free/no copyright and public domain? I thought that for our purposes, there is no difference. So if we cannot assume that all Commons images are available for use without having to specifically check for images that are PD, that throws a huge fly in the ointment! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 10:38, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Link
- I haven't looked into the code but I'm sure it would be possible to do that if necessary (hopefully it will not be). Just because it's on Commons doesn't mean it is public domain. Other licences require attribution - if I find the correct policy I'll link it! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:19, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ah, misunderstood you, Martin. Thought you meant that it's easier to check for PD if
- Why do you think your suggestion will improve this template? (and in the future, be sure to sync the sandbox to the live template's code before you add your edit.) Also, your sandbox edit does test okay on the [testcases page] P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 06:40, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry what does confirming every image is in public domain means? I've tried it on the /sandbox for this template and it works ChampsRT (talk) 00:54, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: editor ChampsRT, in this case the image link is used per MOS:PDI to provide attribution which confirms the image's acceptable and approved copyright status. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 11:56, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 23 April 2023
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Please add "Titans" to the Gold Coast Titans icon, so we can type {{leagueicon|Titans}} to get the icon instead of the full team name. Also, please change "new zealand warriors" to display Auckland colours since this is their correct colour ChampsRT (talk) 09:18, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:10, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Could we please have a slight revision on the Warriors change – perhaps {{leagueicon|Old Warriors}} {{leagueicon|Warriors old}} could link to the silver/black icon for the seasons 2001-2018 when those colours were in use (similar to the Panthers dual icon set up). Storm machine (talk) 14:04, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- Note the above change may have caused errors with the New Zealand Kiwis instance too. Storm machine (talk) 00:36, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 17:13, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
Edit request 27 May 2023
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Please add a template for the Gold Coast Seagulls using File:Gold_Coast_Seagulls_colours.svg, as distinct from the current colours used to refer to "Gold Coast Giants/Seagulls/Chargers". Reason being that the team's colours as the seagulls were completely different to those used by the Chargers. Thew new template would be useful for the individual season articles from 1990-1995, as well as the NRL Records page where the club won 3 wooden spoons only during their time as the Seagulls. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhinsUp23 (talk • contribs) 13:02, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Please can you make required changes to Template:League icon/sandbox? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:12, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- I added a separate line, but it won't display the change. Not sure why, but the change should give the gist of it. PhinsUp23 (talk) 10:48, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Done * Pppery * it has begun... 02:17, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Still not showing up on the page. 2001:8004:DC3:CD74:35A6:6C4D:D4C0:ACD5 (talk) 03:07, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Done that too - apparently there's a separate manual list on the doc page that I missed. But you could have fixed that yourself. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:14, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Still not showing up on the page. 2001:8004:DC3:CD74:35A6:6C4D:D4C0:ACD5 (talk) 03:07, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Done * Pppery * it has begun... 02:17, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- I added a separate line, but it won't display the change. Not sure why, but the change should give the gist of it. PhinsUp23 (talk) 10:48, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 27 August 2023
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Could we please have the Penrith League Icon (the 2017 one, not the old one) link to this file from now on:
I noticed somebody else requested this like 2 years ago but they never made a formal edit request and it was never replied to so I'm assuming it just flew under the radar, but their point is completely valid. White isn't one of Penrith's colours anymore (not listed on their article under the list of colours, nor does it appear on the stripes of their jerseys anymore) so it makes sense to change it. Should presumably be a simple fix, I changed it in the sandbox to the new file but it hasn't updated in there for whatever reason. PhinsUp23 (talk) 09:14, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Should the 2017 one be kept and the key renamed? If so, what should it be renamed to? SWinxy (talk) 21:48, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- i suppose we could keep the 2017 one for stuff like the 2017 NRL season article, maybe just rename it to leagueicon Penrith2017 or something and change the default Penrith one to the new colours. PhinsUp23 (talk) 08:02, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 09:54, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- i suppose we could keep the 2017 one for stuff like the 2017 NRL season article, maybe just rename it to leagueicon Penrith2017 or something and change the default Penrith one to the new colours. PhinsUp23 (talk) 08:02, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
There is a discussion taking place about the use of these icons at WikiProject Rugby league (which can be found here). Please feel free to share any additional opinions you may have on this topic. J Mo 101 (talk) 12:51, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
Edit request 24 January 2024
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Description of suggested change: There are several league icons missing for French teams: Albi, Carpentras, Limouxin, Lyon, Pia. Saint-Gaudens, Saint-Estève Catalan and Villeneuve. I have added them to the sandbox, but they need transferring to the main template - and can be simply copy/pasted across. The documentation has been updated, but I have hidden these additions until the changes have been made. EdwardUK (talk) 23:08, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 03:26, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Edit request 29 January 2024
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Description of suggested change: There are several icons currently used for Sporting Olympique Avignon, I have found a mix of France, Canterbury, Halifax and Swinton. The Halifax icon seems the best match based on the club article and would make easiest to distinguish from US Entraigues XIII and several other blue/white French teams. To make it easier for consistency of usage could the following be added to the template: |Avignon|SO Avignon=Faxcolours.svg
as already done in the sandbox. It has been added to the documentation, but as a hidden comment. EdwardUK (talk) 19:05, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Additional change: To reduce cases of the PNG national colours being used for the PNG Hunters please add a separate keyword for the club: |PNG Hunters=Port Moresby Vipers Colours.svg
- this is also already in the sandbox. EdwardUK (talk) 14:59, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Additional change: A group of nine icons in the European (other) section, women's teams in the top two tiers that do not already have a matching icon from the men's teams: Army, Bedford, Cornish Rebels, Dewsbury Moor, Golden Ferns, Oulton Raidettes, Oxford Cavaliers, Stanningley and Thurrock T-Birds. As with above requests all are in sandbox so can be copied directly across. documentation also updated, but hidden until changes implemented. EdwardUK (talk) 08:02, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Edit request 6 February 2024
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Description of suggested change: update to match sandbox - the recent additions do not work, the reason being that the keywords contain capital letters. I did not realize this would be a problem as these were also present in some of the existing keywords (boston Braves and Crusaders Rugby League), but upon testing found these also did not work, so have changed all non-working keywords to lowercase and the testcase page indicates that this should resolve the problem. EdwardUK (talk) 14:29, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
Edit request 7 February 2024
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Description of suggested change: change to match sandbox – additions and changes to icons to better match team colours and distinguish them from other teams: Midlands Hurricanes uses Melbourne icon but colours are not a particularly close match. Thatto Heath currently uses a mix of icons (Norths, St Helens, Canada) so new icon will provide consistency. For French teams, current use for Villegailhenc-Aragon is Balmain icon (orange/black) instead of orange/dark blue, and the change to Avignon is because currently the same icon is used by Roanne. Addition of RC Salon icon is to distinguish it from Carcassonne. Note that for Avignon and Midlands I have attempted to check through usage of the keywords to make sure they are only being used for the relevant teams so there should be no unexpected changes for other teams. Documentation has been updated, but these changes are hidden until template is updated EdwardUK (talk) 19:59, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Edit request 20 February 2024
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Description of suggested change: change to match sandbox - replace the filename associated with the "cornwall" keyword to add a new icon for Cornwall RLFC (Cornwallrlfccolours.png) as the club currently uses the same icon as Hull FC (black/white), but Cornwall play in black and gold, and looking through news articles on club website shows they have always done so. Example of new version is in testcases and no changes are needed to documentation. EdwardUK (talk) 16:06, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
Edit request 15 June 2024
[edit]Png teams all need colours . Some have none and in all the pages with the exception of the Port Moresby Vipers none have their own, always re-using other teams. I dont feel this is right. i uploaded a set of colours for Enga Mioks
before realising they are are almost the exact same as south Africa.
Apologise if my wiki knowledge is not enough and my ignorance is obvious.
Thanks Eleutherius (talk) 09:55, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Eleutherius: The template uses:
|keyword|keyword2=filename.svg
for each team, so adding the PNG teams would need a list with the keywords and the icons to be used for each of them such as|enga moiks=Enga Mioks Colours.svg
or|lae snax|lae snax tigers=Balmain colours.svg
(note that the keywords use lowercase letters only). You can add them to the template's sandbox for testing, and then it is best to use the "request edit" button (top of talk page) to have them added to the template - as this needs to be done by an admin. EdwardUK (talk) 16:37, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
Edit request 24 September 2024
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Description of suggested change: change to match sandbox, adds an icon for French top division club Villefranche XIII Aveyron (reuse same icon as oxford cavaliers, but different keyword) as it is the only team in Super XIII competition without one. The associated change to documentation has already been prepared, but has been hidden until the icon is added to the template.
Diff:
− | |rc salon=Rcsalonxiiicolours.png
|villegailhenc=Villegailhenccolours.png | + | |rc salon=Rcsalonxiiicolours.png
|villefranche=Oxfordcavcolours.png
|villegailhenc=Villegailhenccolours.png |
EdwardUK (talk) 11:33, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 21:08, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
Edit request 24 October 2024
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Description of suggested change: update template to match sandbox. |goole=goolevikingscolours.png
adds an icon for Goole Vikings, set to join League One in the 2025 season. It has been tested in sandbox and has been added to the documentation, but hidden until the template itself is updated. EdwardUK (talk) 02:51, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Note - The sandbox page looks very different to the template as the order of the European clubs have been rearranged to reflect changes in the leagues, however, the working content remains the same other than the addition of the icon requested above. EdwardUK (talk) 00:19, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Additional change: Also add
|barrow 1875=Wests Panthers Colours.svg
for original colours worn by Barrow Raiders, as the club did not adopt blue and white as home colours until after the 1937–38 season. EdwardUK (talk) 16:34, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Additional change: Also add