Template talk:Wikiquotepar

This page was protected by User:Quadell (me) on January 28 to prevent an incipient edit-war. Many pages use this template, and each change to this template requires additional server caching on all affected pages, slowing down Wikipedia for all of us. For this reason, many templates are protected so that changes are made only after consensus is reached on the talk page.

Afterwards, User:Netoholic made the following request on my user page:

Please unprotect this, revert to my last version, and change the wording from "by or about" to "related to". This will address your concern, mine, and everyone who doesn't have to see that TFD notice.

There seem to be several points up for debate here.

Should this template use the sisterprojects template? The consensus forming on Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Sisterproject so far seems to be that it should. But I think we should wait until the TfD process runs its course before deciding.
Should there be one Wikiquotepar box with a single wording, or should there be several (e.g. Template:WikiquoteAbout)? Again, this is being hashed out on Templates For Deletion, and I am loath to change this page until consensus is reached.
If there is a single wording, what should it be? The current "by or about"? Or the proposed "related to"?

Comments? – Quadell ^{(talk) (sleuth)} 20:00, Jan 28, 2005 (UTC)

We should wait for the sisterproject template vote to conclude before using it. This template did not use it before two days ago, and can work just fine without it. We should use one single wording - doing otherwise has led to insidious instruction creep. For such a simple mechanism as this, we only need two link boxes at most one using PAGENAME and one using parameters - a very clean solution. I am open to whatever exact phrasing acheives these ends, so that we do not have to create so many one-off templates. Just look at Wikipedia:Template messages/Links#Sister projects for what I mean (oh, and trust me, there are many more not even listed there). -- Netoholic @ 20:12, 2005 Jan 28 (UTC)

As far as I understand it, there is no way to link to a page while having the box wording display something else. That is to say, I cannot, on the Fat Tony page, after moving some quotes off of it, have a box linking to this simpsons quote collection, with the box text showing "by or about Fat Tony". I believe the current format is {{Wikiquotepar|pagename}}. The version I am recommending is {{Wikiquotepar|pageaddress|displayedname}}. Anyone care to oblige? --Superiority 14:14, 22 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I do like this idea — for all the {{foopar}} templates, in fact. But I think it would be too much to change this template to take three parameters instead of two, especially when its most common usage would just be to duplicate the second parameter for the third. I'm wondering whether it's possible to have something like a named parameter with a default value, so that e.g. {{wikiquotepar|name}} would still display "by or about name", but {{wikiquotepar|name|display=foo}} would display "by or about foo" while linking to article name. I'm going to investigate that possibility; please comment here if you know it's (im)possible. --Quuxplusone 20:36, 22 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That was what I was suggesting, I just didn't really manage to communicate it properly. I don't know too much about the subject, but it does seem like it would be possible. But, as I said, I'm rather unenlightened on the details of such an endeavour. --210.246.47.237 09:27, 23 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Above comment was me. --Superiority 09:29, 23 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You could proactively go replace instances of this with {{wikiquotepar|pagename|displaytext}}. The extra given parameters are ignored. Once all have been completed, you could then modify the template to generate the intended effect. -- Netoholic @ 19:51, 23 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]