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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by Dabomb87 23:30, 30 December 2010 [1].

List of Spice and Wolf episodes

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Nominator(s): NocturneNoir (talk · contribs), Juhachi (talk · contribs)

A legendary wolf deity joins a wandering merchant on a trip to find her ancestral home. This episode list has had its first half checked in a peer review. I feel this list passes all featured list criteria and I will make any necessary improvements. Thanks. I have acquired permission to run two simultaneous FLCs. ɳOCTURNEɳOIRtalk 06:11, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Procedural note: I've requested further reviews at WT:ANIME. I've attempted to word it neutrally so that it does not violate canvassing policy; if it does, please let me know so I may rectify it immediately. Thanks. ɳOCTURNEɳOIRtalk 16:13, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Quick note: not a problem, it's a good idea to offer reviews in return as well, hopefully it'll give a boost to the content improvement fraternity. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:18, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 07:53, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Comments firstly an apology that it's taken so long for you get some interest here. Nevertheless, some comments for you:
  • "a wolf-deity in control of wheat" reads a little odd to me. I get the deity thing, but what does "in control of wheat" really mean?!
  • "stopped believing in her." believe it or not it's difficult to be sure who "her" is here, either "Holo" or "Kraft", neither of whom you've told me if they're female or not!
  • "released to six DVD " normally released on DVD.
  • " were released to four BD/DVD compilation " ditto.
  • No key is given for episodes with red/pink background.
  • What does # mean in the table?
  • Is wolf deity hyphenated or not?
  • "She requests to become" reads a bit odd, maybe just "She asks if she can become"?
  • "silver has actually gone down" why not just "silver has decreased"?
  • "Lawrence and Holo head to the guild that Lawrence is a member of and Lawrence is greeted warmly inside" Lawrence x 3 in one sentence?
  • " and flirts a bit with Holo" reads like a tabloid newspaper.
  • Do you really think we need to link bankruptcy and ultimatum?
  • "scrounges up a few" don't think you need "up" here.
  • "smooth talking" if you insist (I would imagine) needs to be hyphenated.
  • "haggled over pieces of pyrite, their price greatly inflated by haggling" repeat of haggle here, can we be more imaginative?
  • " in an attempt to create some space. " what?
  • "she get drunk " gets. Better still, becomes.

The Rambling Man (talk) 19:30, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

First off, thanks for the review. You shouldn't apologise for the lack of interest; it's understandable given the subject matter consists of long bits of prose from a non-English source comparable to much easier to verify lists with far less prose.
I've attempted to correct all the issues raised above with the notable exception of the key for the episodes with a red/pink background: both episodes are marked by a (OVA) in the Original air date column and have a note explaining it. If this is insufficient, I would not be opposed to removing the colours altogether since they add very little substance to the list itself (as they should). Please let me know if anything else needs clarifying. ɳOCTURNEɳOIRtalk 00:50, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Comment
  • I can't find the airdates in ref 3.
  • I think the refs would look better having trans_title in the webcite template.
  • I also can't seem to find the airdates for the second season.

I'll have a better look when I'm free. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 16:25, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the review. Regarding your points:
  • Did you check the archive? The current "original" version does not display the dates but the archived version does. This applies to the second season's references as well.
  • Ref 3 says every week and I suppose that covers the first series, but I can't find information confirming the start date for the second season. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 06:21, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
  • Appearance of the cite web template is not under the purview of this candidacy and should instead be taken up directly at the template's talkpage. I merely apply code as instructed by the template's documentation. ɳOCTURNEɳOIRtalk 16:35, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
  • Ref 2, where does the "Whistling Wolf" part of the theme song come from? From the reference, only the Kanji was found. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 09:41, 18 December 2010 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.
The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Dabomb87 01:53, 11 December 2010 [2].

Abingdon Boys School discography

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Nominator(s): NocturneNoir (talk · contribs)

Hello all. It's been a while. I'm back again, but this time with a unique discography from the underrepresented section of Japanese bands. I believe this page meets FL criteria and will do my best to make any improvements as necessary. Thanks. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR♯♭ 18:02, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment いらっしゃいませ！
    • LEAD The band's two studio albums both reached #2 on the Oricon charts; singles such as Blade Chord and From Dusk Till Dawn have peaked at #2 and #3 respectively on the Oricon charts. what about Both of the band's first studio albums reached #2 on the Oricon charts...-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 19:54, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 08:18, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Comments (quick look)
  • Why is "video album" a red link here, something I've not seen in any other discog?
  • No images at all?
  • "one compilation," ... album.
  • "was started in 2005 " formed in 2005.
  • "named the band ABS after Ebisu, Tokyo, Japan" not clear to a non-expert. Is this a linguistic thing?
  • " signed under Epic Records Japan" I think conventionally bands are signed "to" not "under" a label.
  • "Their music.." (etc) you seem to use singular and plural "Abingdon Boys School" interchangeably. As a Brit I have no problem with this, but others may.
  • "#2" - MOS says avoid this use of #.
  • Ensure reference title comply with MOS, i.e. no OVER-CAPITALISATION for instance.

The Rambling Man (talk) 21:04, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Done most of those.
No images of the band are available on Wikipedia or Commons, though I suppose there must be a way to port one over via Flickr. I'm unfortunately not an expert at that process, though I would welcome instruction and guidance.
I'll have a look on Flick for suitably licensed images. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:25, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
I checked Flickr myself; no such luck to suitably licensed images of the band. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR♯♭ 02:31, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
A-B-S is pronounced similar to Ebisu in Japanese. 'A' would be "eh", 'B' would be the standard English "bee", and 'S' could be "esu". The trick here is that "bi" would be pronounced "bee" as well. Not entirely sure how to clarify this however.
A note would be very useful because to non-Japanese speakers, this is far from clear. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:25, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Take a look at the note at the bottom; I think this should be sufficient. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR♯♭ 02:31, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the review. Let me know what you think. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR♯♭ 21:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Resolved comments from Adabow (talk · contribs) 23:49, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
*Oppose
  • All of the notes are full sentences, so need full stops
  • JP: Gold - while we, contributors, may know that this is a certification, some readers who have not read many WP discographies in the past may not
  • Why does 'Compilation albums' table have a column for Orion chart position, but no entries?
  • Per MOS:TITLE - singles should not be italicised, but enclosed in quotation marks
  • Every single has a note, 'The title track...'. Obviously, being a single, they are title tracks. These need rewording, ie for "Innocent Sorrow" write 'The single is used as the first opening song to the anime series D.Gray-man'
  • What on Earth are 'Contributions'?

Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:22, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Responses:
  • Notes like "Only released in Europe" are not full sentences and thus cannot have periods after them; I would much rather have conformity with regard to punctuation, so I prefer no full stops.
  • I still don't find this acceptable, but I'll wait for others' opinions
  • Have clarified JP: Gold.
  • I put the Oricon chart positions for all sections for the sake of conformity.
  • Fixed the singles bit.
  • Japanese singles almost always include additional songs, or B-sides. While "The single" would refer to the title track, the clarification, "The title track..." solidifies the claim that the title tracks are the opening song
  • The lead notes that the discography includes "seven contributions to releases not under its name"; how may I clarify this further?
  • How about 'Other appearances' or similar? You need to clarify what each album is. Are they all compilation albums?
  • I suppose? Contributions was used both here and here while this, this, and this use Other appearances. I've switched it, regardless and yes, they are all compilation albums with the exception of "Buck-Tick Fest 2007 on Parade", a live video album. ɳOCTURNEɳOIRtalk 23:09, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your review. I hope I've answered all of your concerns. ɳOCTURNEɳOIRtalk 07:42, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
  • There is also an excessive use of boldface in the 'singles' table.
  • I've debolded, but I honestly think it looks quite terrible now. This discography does not share the format with the large majority of other discographies; the single chart follows the album chart layout and I thus think the formatting should remain the same: bolded titles to highlight them. ɳOCTURNEɳOIRtalk 23:09, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Hmmm, I don't seem to mind, either way now. However, the 'Album' column in the singles table definitely needs unbolding. Adabow (talk · contribs) 23:41, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Ah, now that makes sense. Apologies for the misunderstanding; I've done that now. ɳOCTURNEɳOIRtalk 23:46, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Support I still don't like the layout of the notes, but I suppose I'm just being fussy. Adabow (talk · contribs) 23:49, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Hardly. It's a legitimate concern; one I'd like very much to clarify at some point. Thanks for the review and the support nonetheless. ɳOCTURNEɳOIRtalk 23:54, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Not entirely sure how I messed that one up. It's been fixed. ɳOCTURNEɳOIRtalk 14:03, 1 December 2010 (UTC)


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