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Cover versions

Rip It Up

Clean

Great Unwashed

Nelsh Bailter Space

Bailter Space – Nelsh Bailter Space

"I'm in love with these times"

Clean, Bill Direen and The Puddle live in 2007

News: The Clean are The Clean are The Clean

Interview by Tim Bugbee Popwatch magazine (1994)

Bailter Space

Cover versions

Removed the following sentence/paragraph:

Bailter Space never covered any other bands' songs on record; it is not known whether they did so in concert.

... I'm pretty sure that "I'm in love with these times" from the Nelsh Bailter Space EP (Bailter Space – Nelsh Bailter Space) is a Clean song.

There was some discussion of this in the New Zealand music media at the time, although I can't track down a definitive reference just at the moment. (If anyone has access to back issues of Rip It Up from 1986–87, there should be some mention in there.) Closest I've found to a reference so far is an interview with the band from 1994 where the topic is discussed: [1].

Carl Mauch / Karl Mauch

Working on the principle that Karl Mauch explored southern Africa circa 1867, and is credited by Britannica Online for the discovery of mineral deposits at Hartley,[2], I changed the redlink Carl Mauch to Karl Mauch.

Citation experiments

In 184 B.C., Hannibal's army used belladonna plants to induce disorientation, and the Bishop of Münster in A.D. 1672 attempted to use belladonna-containing grenades in an assault on the city of Groningen.

Identity of Demon in Yellow Robe

In Journey to the West#List of demons, the "Demon in Yellow Robe" is currently identified as "wood wolf of Gui (or Andromeda)" (and Andromeda is linking to a disambiguation page).

In the freeware English translation of Journey to the West that I'm working from (Journey to the West, see page 443), the constellation that goes missing from heaven is described as "Strider, the wooden wolf". I think that relates to Kuí, or Legs (Chinese constellation), which roughly overlaps Andromeda (constellation).

Am I correct in identifying the Demon in Yellow Robe with Kuí/Legs? Or am I getting confused by the translations?

If I'm not confused by the translations, I'm inclined to change the identity of the demon to "wood wolf of Kuí (the Chinese constellation Legs)". But I thought I'd better check first.

Talk:Journey to the West#Identity of Demon in Yellow Robe

MCC in starbox catalog

EQ Virginis, EQ Virginis SIMBAD entry showing MCC 145 identifier, Dictionary of Nomenclature of Celestial Objects entry for MCC

DT Virginis
WX Ursae Majoris
Alexander N. Vyssotsky

Lalande 21185 (starbox showing MCC 594)

Barnard's Star (starbox showing Vyssotsky 799), Barnard's Star SIMBAD entry showing MCC 799 identifier

Gliese 436 (starbox showing Vyssotsky 616, unlinked)
Gliese 876 (starbox showing Vys 337)
Struve 2398 (starbox showing Vyssotsky 184, unlinked)
Ross 128 (starbox showing Vyssotsky 286)
Gl 687 (starbox showing Vys 322, unlinked)
Kruger 60 (starbox showing Vys 207 A/B)
Gliese 710 (starbox showing Vys/McC 63, unlinked)
Groombridge 34 (starbox showing Vys 085 A/B)
Wolf 1061 (starbox showing Vys 164)
Luyten's Star (starbox showing Vys 17)
Gliese 673 (starbox showing Vys 794, unlinked)
Gliese 570 (starbox showing Vys 726, unlinked)

I think the MCC abbreviation appearing as a link to the MCC disambiguation page in three starboxes (DT Virginis, EQ Virginis and WX Ursae Majoris) refers to the list contained in five articles titled Dwarf M Stars Found Spectrophotometrically (or slight variants thereof) compiled by Alexander N. Vyssotsky (and some others) at McCormick Observatory. (The articles are available on line here: [3])

Here's the line of reasoning. Looking at EQ Virginis, the SIMBAD link given on that page takes us to: EQ Virginis SIMBAD entry showing MCC 145 identifier. Down at the bottom of that page, MCC 145 is given as one of the other identifiers, and if we click on that identifier, we're taken to Dictionary of Nomenclature of Celestial Objects entry for MCC, where it says that MCC refers to the Vyssotsky lists.

I'm not entirely sure where the "MCC" instances in DT Virginis, EQ Virginis and WX Ursae Majoris should link to though. One option that has been taken with Lalande 21185 (starbox showing MCC 594) has been to link the MCC number to the Vyssotsky article. That's also been a moderately popular tack taken with starboxes that use the equivalent "Vys" and "Vyssotsky" abbreviations instead of MCC. Here are the pages using "Vys" or "Vyssotsky" in starboxes that I've been able to find:

Barnard's Star (starbox showing Vyssotsky 799)
Gliese 436 (starbox showing Vyssotsky 616, unlinked)
Gliese 876 (starbox showing Vys 337)
Struve 2398 (starbox showing Vyssotsky 184, unlinked)
Ross 128 (starbox showing Vyssotsky 286)
Gl 687 (starbox showing Vys 322, unlinked)
Kruger 60 (starbox showing Vys 207 A/B)
Gliese 710 (starbox showing Vys/McC 63, unlinked)
Groombridge 34 (starbox showing Vys 085 A/B)
Wolf 1061 (starbox showing Vys 164)
Luyten's Star (starbox showing Vys 17)
Gliese 673 (starbox showing Vys 794, unlinked)
Gliese 570 (starbox showing Vys 726, unlinked)

I'm not sure I like that strategy, though. It's not immediately clear from the Vyssotsky article whether (say) MCC 594, Vyssotsky 799 or Vys 322 are entries in the list given in the Dwarf M Stars Found Spectrophotometrically articles or are entries in some other catalog that Vyssotsky contributed to. Editing the Vyssotsky article to make it clearer that MCC/Vyssotsky/Vys numbers are entries in Dwarf M Stars ... would be helpful for folks following existing MCC/Vyssotsky/Vys links in starboxes, but I'm not sure it would be so good for the Vyssotsky article itself, which seems like it should be more about Vyssotsky than the Dwarf M Stars ... list.

My other thought is to create a new "MCC, Vys, Vyssotsky" subsection under "Specialized catalogues" at Star catalogue and direct the MCC links in the starboxes there (possibly following up with directing Vys or Vyssotsky links in starboxes there, or changing the Vys and Vyssotsky instances in starboxes to MCC and directing them there).

Link experiment

Wikipedia:WikiProject_Ships/Guidelines#Pronouns