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Happy editing! Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:11, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please be aware that the requirements on newly-registered editors are exactly the same as for IP editors: you cannot escape from having to follow what sources say, or warnings issued to you when you were an IP editing the same Curry article, by registering. You must comply with Wikipedia's rules on point-of-view editing; however strongly you may feel that Indians invented "curry", they actually invented a wealth of other spicy dishes, with Portuguese and Persian influences among others. In particular, Collingham demonstrably states that the British invented the word curry and the type of (degraded) dish that the word connotes: and that this dish was not the same as any Indian dish, even if those Indian dishes are today also called curries. I do hope this is clear. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:15, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 2024

Please stop. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, as you did at Curry, you may be blocked from editing. As I explained to you in a friendly way above, that is non-neutral, as it is a pro-Indian, even nationalistic, point of view. That is forbidden on Wikipedia. Please stop or you will be blocked from editing. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:50, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for comment. I did not add commentary or personal analysis. I just checked the source you provided and realized many of you contributions based on those source is complete lie, out of context or mashed up. I am not nationalistic at all but very protective of cultural heritages. British created the word curry, I agree. There was Portuguese and Persian influence, I absolutely agree. But when article has mis-info like 'Anglo-Indians created what they called curry', my corrective stance may not seem neutral but it is. Curry is not a specific dish but many. Even if Indians do not call their dishes curry, Wikipedia is global platform people all around the world would be very confused or misinformed by statement that 'Anglo-Indians created what they called curry.' British got the word from Portuguese and adopted it before Anglo-Indians were present. How is a claim that, in future Anglo-Indians create their dishes and call it 'creation of curry', not ridiculous. `mkund (talk) 16:43, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for discussing. However, the text as written is reliably-cited, which is what counts on Wikipedia, i.e. it is based on the policy Wikipedia:Reliable sources (please read it). This is a core policy of the encyclopedia: you can't edit here without understanding it and taking it on board in everything you edit. The article as it stands is not misleading: it reflects the (many) sources of high quality that it uses. If you can't accept this, Wikipedia editing is not for you. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:12, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

From the guidline page, "Articles should be based on reliable, independent, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. This means that we publish only the analysis, views, and opinions of reliable authors, and not those of Wikipedians, who have read and interpreted primary source material for themselves. " Your unfounded claims about Anglo-Indians creating curry is your personal interpretation. It has nowhere been mentioned by author. Now I should help correct wikipedia as shown by guidline. I will see to it tomorrow. Good Night 103.225.244.147 (talk) 18:37, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, I have added no personal interpretations at all. Each claim is directly sourced, as anyone can verify from the cited sources. You would do well to read that core policy as well. The creation of Anglo-Indian curry is not in doubt; it is well cited in the article and many more sources exist documenting Anglo-Indian culture and cuisine.

You are warned that any attempt to "correct" the article by deleting or altering reliably-cited facts will get you still more severe formal warnings, leading most likely to a block from editing. If you have any specific issue with a claim, I strongly suggest you take it to the article's talk page where the community can discuss it first. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:47, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not talking about Anglo-Indian curry but curries itself. Slightly changing topics to fit you argument is very disingenuous. I am willing to show anyone source as I have it and let them see if your contributions were in view of author. Your repeated threats to ban me does not phase me.

I am going bring this to talk page, you need not worry. 103.225.244.147 (talk) 18:53, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You must stop accusing me of malpractice: that can be construed as WP:NPA a personal attack, and if you were to continue with personal remarks, administrators would very likely agree that you were out of order with that behaviour. Any banning will be done by them, not my problem. I am not trying to "phase" you, whatever that is, but to get you to follow policy in discussion and editing.

On your "disingenuous" remark: I am not changing topics: you yourself have here in this very thread discussed the Anglo-Indians, and I was simply replying to your discussion, rebutting your argument directly. I've started a talk page thread over at Talk:Curry; I'm glad you will await community consensus there rather than continuing to insert your personal point of view in the article without any kind of supporting evidence or community agreement. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:00, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know you enough to personal attack you, I am calling your argument disingenuous. You calling me nationalistic when I am calling for correctness was personal attack.

Anglo-Indians are not the main topic. It was about curry and whether it was created by Anglo-Indians, please stop changing topics.

I have sources and I can show administrators completely reasonable diffs about how you ignored my points made after reading your own refrenced book and how you undid edits without valid repy. As well as few letters as summary for your edits. 103.225.244.147 (talk) 19:15, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]