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Redirecting teams to league articles[edit]

Hey GB Fan, I noticed that instead of deleting a few team articles that I proposed for deletion (South Dakota Gold, Bluff City Reign, and Chattanooga Steamers), you redirected them instead. I would like to let you know it has been demonstrated that its NOT the usual way that non-notable team articles are dealt with. First off, several WP:RFD discussions have deleted redirects like that in the past. The rationale being WP:RFD#DELETE #10, which states: "If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject." You can refer to WP:REDLINK for more information on why this is a good thing. A few RfD examples that I have in recent memory include Atlanta Experience, Carolina Cheetahs, and The rest of the ABA redirects. On the converse, deletion discussions on teams have repeatedly shown that the team's article is deleted instead of redirected to the league. There are way too many examples of this to count. I would recommend that you reverse your decision to redirect those teams, and instead delete them as an expired PROD. Thank you. Tavix |  Talk  20:17, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Let me see if I understand what you are saying. You proposed South Dakota Gold be deleted because it is a "Basketball team with no assertion of notability." This tells me you believe the basketball team South Dakota Gold is not notable and should not have an article. Above you say there should not be a redirect either because the "redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article." So if the team is not notable enough for an article how can it plausibly be expanded into an article? -- GB fan 22:46, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
You missed the second part of that point: "the target article contains virtually no information on the subject." It doesn't help anyone by redirecting to a league article that gives virtually no information on the subject. It's better off keeping it a redlink. Tavix |  Talk  23:46, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
I didn't miss the second point, it doesn't make any difference, the two points are connected by "and" That means both must be true. The redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject. The way it is written both points should be looked at independently and if both are true, then it shouldn't be redirected. In this case, the first part isn't true so there is no reason to even consider the second point. Above you directed me to WP:REDLINK for reasons why redlinks are good. When I went and looked the first line of WP:REDNOT tells me this shouldn't be a redlink. It says: "Do not create red links to articles that are not likely to be created and retained in Wikipedia" So a redirect is better than a redlink because this way you at least have some information. -- GB fan 00:24, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Reported User Inquiry Response[edit]

Hi, GB Fan, I reported the user at WP:UAA because I think this account needs to be deleted altogether instead of simply suspended. Carwile2 *Shoot me a message* 16:38, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Carwile2 we do not delete accounts. Account can be blocked, they can be renamed, they can never be deleted. Of those the only one that can happen as the result of a report at WP:UAA is blocking. I just happened to see your request, but since the user was already blocked the request was quickly deleted. There is nothing more to do here as the account is blocked. -- GB fan 16:55, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
I see; thank you for the clarification! As a recent changes patroller, I am a tad unfamiliar with the criteria for user reporting. Thank you for clearing this muddy puddle up for me. Carwile2 *Shoot me a message* 16:58, 10 March 2015 (UTC)


I am sorry for my recent behavior. So many stupid decisions in such a short amount of time, I can't believe myself. Weegeerunner (talk) 00:58, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Please be more careful in the future. -- GB fan 01:08, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Could I get uninvolved eyes at RS/N?[edit]

A IP editor has been inserting a personal rant over and over again at RSN. I'm surprised there haven't been escalating warnings issued. Could you look at the situation and take appropriate admin action, if any is needed? thanks. BusterD (talk) 10:40, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Admin User:Spinningspark has replied to this situation. Since the editor in question is at 3RR right now (and seems persistent), I'd appreciate it if you and others kept eyes on the situation. Thanks. BusterD (talk) 11:16, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Leverage listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Leverage. Since you had some involvement with the Leverage redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Ivanvector (talk) 14:47, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Declined speedy deletion of DOUGLAS NELSON[edit]

Hi, I noticed that you declined speedy deletion on DOUGLAS NELSON. I was wondering if this was because I used the wrong criteria (which is the case - G6 would have been more applicable) or because you feel that the redirect should stay? I'm happy to start a discussion on RFD if you feel that would be more appropriate, but I just thought I'd check what your reasoning was first?--Hazel77 talk 16:17, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

I declined it because it is not speedy deleteable. You tagged it with a WP:R3 tag. That tag is only used for redirect that are "implausible typos or misnomers" It is plausible that someone may type DOUGLAS NELSON looking for the article. WP:G6 is not appropriate either as it is only for "Uncontroversial maintenance" and this does not meet anything in the list under that criterion. There isn't any speedy deletion criterion that applies to this redirect. It is a redirect from a different capitalisation. If you feel the redirect should be deleted RFD is the only way to go. I do not see any need to delete the redirect. -- GB fan 20:10, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Reverted edit of SPY (disambiguation)[edit]

Hi, what if I just created the S.P.Y page which redirect you deleted? Please don't get me wrong, I am pro deleting unnecessary entries but there are users who actually contribute and are not only registered in order to de-spam Wikipedia. Going through my contributions and looking for potential errors doesn't seem very helpful to me. --en:User:Darealclub 19:32, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

I deleted it because the link you added was a redlink. I didn't look enough to see that the article existed, just under a slightly different name. I have restored the entry with the correct link. -- GB fan 19:38, 22 March 2015 (UTC)


The IP you reverted on Bullmastiff is probably evading blocks; it was briefly discussed here. Since then blocks have been handed out on quite a number of other IP addresses. It starts every few days and I usually revert and ping Drmies - I've been getting a bit fed up of having to keep doing all the checking and sorting of refs behind them. They have been messing with a few today. The IP talk page with conditions Drmies set is here but Drmies hasn't been around. The link to the UKC standard on Perro de Presa Canario has just been changed back to a dead link which I repaired the other day. I give up ... ... SagaciousPhil - Chat 17:47, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Voting on functionary candidates[edit]

This is occurring at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Motions. Courcelles (talk) 19:31, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Help needed please[edit]

Hi there. It's the first time that I need to create an account for a person. I uploaded the information as Joubert Botha, but received a message that this has been suspended/deleted. I am not sure why and how I can correct the mistake. Can someone please assist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:46, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Before we actually talk about the article, Joubert Botha, I need you to answer a question. The article was created by User:Joubert Botha, are you actually Joubert Botha? -- GB fan 00:58, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you![edit]

Cup-o-coffee-simple.svg Thanks for executing deletions of my work drafts in my userspace. I rely on you and others for these things. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:01, 31 March 2015 (UTC)