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Hello, Abkhalid, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, like Beating Manchester United, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for page creation, and may soon be deleted.

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Speedy deletion of Beating Manchester United

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Nomination of Pakistan Youth Revolution for deletion

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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Pakistan Youth Revolution is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pakistan Youth Revolution until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Legacypac (talk) 07:43, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

May 2020

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Hello, I'm Creffett. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Persecution of Ahmadis seemed less than neutral to me, so I removed it for now. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. creffett (talk) 16:45, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, as you did at Persecution of Ahmadis, you may be blocked from editing. DMacks (talk) 16:58, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Dear Creffett & DMacks

I made it more neutral by removing the word "sect of Islam" if you check with Muslims around the world 100% of them will declare Ahmedi as non-muslim as they don't believe the preaching of Islam. Is it just like if I got to Scientology and say I don't believe in science but I am Scientologist, or I will be a calling myself GAY but I don't like to have sex with other men but only women?

Nobody cares what Muslims in general, or you personally think about the identity of anyone else. That's part of our WP:NPOV policy, and what makes us an encyclopedia rather than an editorial. DMacks (talk) 17:28, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If someone tries to associate with something, then rules of that association are to be followed. As shared in my earlier suggestion the neutrality goes both ways. By your (DMacks (talk)) own tone in reply to me and also insisting on declaring them Muslims you have gone against https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view#Impartial_tone

If a group of people say they are Christian, Muslim, etc it's not Wikipedia's job to say they are not. Very few non-Mormon Christians would consider Mormons Christian (most would call them heretics) but our articles on them do. Let me simplify this for you however. Your edits are completely against our policy of WP:NPOV and if one of the other Admins don't block you if you repeat such edits, I will. NPOV does not apply to talk pages, by the way. And as I said, it's not Wikipedia declaring them Muslims, it's them declaring themselves Muslims. Editors have no right to say they aren't. Doug Weller talk 18:01, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]