User talk:Accurizer/Archive03

This is an Archive of my talk page from August – October 2006. Please do not modify it. Please post new messages at the bottom of my current talk page, here. Thanks! —Accurizer

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Elementary School AfD's

I have been participating actively in AfDs on schools. I'd vote to Keep all High Schools, almost without questions. I'd like to see Middle Schools demonstrate some degree of content and work. I think that the school you pointed me to is part of a worthwhile effort, and I will vote to Keep, but I think we need to work on some sort of consensus, so that we can all avoid spending so much time on these votes. Thanks for the heads up, and for all your work on making Wikipedia a better place. Down with Deletionism! After all, even Deletionists went to school somewhere (and if not, that probably explains a great deal). Alansohn 14:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Bally as a city near Kolkata

Bally is a famous brand worldwide. So it always gets confusing when Bally is mentioned as a place near Kolkata. But Bally has a rich history and is one of the well known places. There are lot of less known places that get a good coverage. So I thought as a duty I should write on this. It has also been covered in encyclopaedia Britannica- so it demands a better coverage than just a mention. Hope it gets its due recognition. --Soumiknath 05:08, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Soumiknath. I just would like to clarify that by moving the material about Bally, Kolkata, I was not implying that it does not deserve an article. It may deserve an article and you are free to create one if you like. (I would have done so myself, but I do not have any familarity with the subject and I did not want to create an article about something I am unfamilar with.) If you need help doing so please let me know. I'm making a link to the page that should be created if you decide to proceed: Bally, Kolkata. I preserved the original material at Talk:Bally (disambiguation) in the event you would like to copy and paste it into a newly created article. Regards, Accurizer 19:56, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Jeremy White

Only one sentence of the Jeremy White article appeared to be taken verbatim from a copyrighted source, so I changed it to summarise the same information. Countersubject 12:35, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Recent Addition to ZIP code info

Although none of my additions have been deleted I have a question as to why you would even send me a message saying that such is possible considering all of the information I added was off of the wikipedia website and even from the same section! I have read the link that you sent me about Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information and i have found no part in which i would be in violation of. I was just curious why you have found it necessary to send me such a response if there is nothing wrong with my additions, especially considering that all of my additions have simply been a different way to view the SAME information already available from wikipedia. List of ZIP codes in the United States

User Talk: Goosar19

--Goosar19 18:24, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello again, this is in response to the question you left on my talk page. The reason I contacted you was to give you a friendly heads-up about the policy in the event you hadn't seen it. Many list articles like these have been deleted at WP:AFD. Just because the information is already in Wikipedia doesn't necessarily mean that it should be. In fact, thousands of articles are deleted every day. Also, given that the information already exists as you noted, another editor may decide to redirect your articles to the pre-existing ones. Since it appeared to me that you were devoting a lot of time to these articles, I thought it would be a shame to see you continue for days or weeks without knowing there is a risk they could be deleted (or redirected) down the road. I thought you would be discouraged if this were to happen. In any event, please continue to edit as you see fit. Happy editing! Regards, Accurizer 18:28, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: ZIP codes

Well thanks for the heads up.

You mentioned something about a redirect. If this is what I think it is (simply have a similar link go to the same place as another article) I don't think that that would be appropriate in this case because the section I am working on is grouping the ZIP codes in a different way than listed above on that page. Yes some of them are similar but for the most part there is a noticeable difference.

Also I don't know if this makes a difference as far as you are concerned but I am simply adding information to the links already in place and did not create the links I am editing myself.

Thanks again for the heads up, but when will I know if my additions are "appropriate" for the wikipedia site. If it is deemed "unacceptable" then I won't continue to do this but I would like to continue making contributions as soon as I know for sure that they ARE "acceptable". Who do I contact to find out this information and how long does this usually take??

Let me know if you have any insight on this!

Thanks [User_talk:Goosar19| User Talk Goosar19]

--Goosar19 18:59, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, your presumption about "redirect" was accurate (you can read more about it here if you wish.) I looked into this a little further, some articles like these were already redirected, see [1] for example. A good place to get an answer to your question from a group of people would be Wikipedia:New contributors' help page. This would certainly be faster than waiting to see if someone redirects it or nominates it for deletion. If you go there, I would be interested in hearing how it goes. I hope this works out to your satisfaction. Accurizer 19:21, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Cement Mixer

Hi, you removed the prod tag from Cement Mixer, saying in the edit summary that it had already been prodded once. However, it hadn't been. Or did I misunderstand your edit summary comment? --Xyzzyplugh 19:27, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Xyzzyplugh. Yes, you understood my edit comment correctly. It doesn't appear in the page history because it was deleted as a result of the first prod nomination. Here is a link to the deletion log that shows the previous deletion: [2] So procedurally, it can't be prodded again. It would have to go to AfD if you still want to see it deleted. Regards, Accurizer 19:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Aha, thanks for the explanation. It didn't occur to me that it might have been prodded, deleted, and recreated. I understand that if a deleted article is remade, prod shouldn't be used the 2nd time, as this implies that the deletion was disputed by someone. I'm going to leave it as a redirect unless the redirect is reverted again. --Xyzzyplugh 19:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Replys

How do you "reply" to a message? Goosar19 (talk · contribs)

--Goosar19 20:20, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I think you just did! :) It is really as simple as going to the user's talk page, and posting on it as though you were editing an article. When you post on another user's page, the Wiki software alerts them that there has been a change on their talk page. Hope this answers your question. Accurizer 20:53, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

replys

I was just curions how you are able to get the same message that you type to me to show up on both my talk page AND your talk page and why under my watchlist that it shows that you truely replied to my message and didn't just send me one???

I'm not trying to be a pain sry :)

goosar19 (talk · contribs)

No problem at all. In these cases, I type "reply" into the edit summary box, which appears directly above the buttons for Save page / Show preview / Show changes. This isn't an automated feature. Using the edit summary box is considered good Wiki-etiquette. Also, the messages appear in both places because I post them there manually. This is my way of keeping track on my talk page of what I have replied to and what I still need to reply to. I've found it makes things easier for me, that's all. Accurizer 21:18, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! You have been a tremendous help with everything!!! :) :) :) You really made a newcomer feel welcome! :)

Your comment on my RfA

Hi Accurizer. I've responded to your "neutral" vote on my RfA: the incident happened completely by accident due to a Google Toolbar bug; hopefully you will consider changing your vote. —Mets501 (talk) 18:38, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. —Mets501 (talk) 18:47, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Bogus college

I donot know how to talk or write message to you. When I am writing all this, it means I know a lot. I am founder and settler of the charitable Trust "IBSAR" and handed over Monga to run the Trust in a charitable way and as per law. I did not know what Monga had in mind and he started a private coaching business under the umbrella of a charitable trust. He is ruuning from pilla to post to get recongnition from any University, but which University in India will involve it self in private business. I have moved courts to stops its business and disolve the trust or remove trustees. Police, Income Tax department, Higher Education department, UGC are after cheaters, but legal matters take time, to bring the cheaters to book. I have filed criminal cases against him and I shall be able to remove them.But it sites like you promote bogus colleges then students are misguided and cheaters earn money. I donot know who you are, but stop promoting Institute of Business Studies and Research and I donot know what interest you have in promototing a bogus college and delete the site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Institute of Business Studies and Research (talk • contribs)

Note: See User talk:Institute of Business Studies and Research for discussion. Accurizer 02:24, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Bogus college

Your site promotes a bogus college —Preceding unsigned comment added by Institute of Business Studies and Research (talk • contribs)

Bogus college

I donot know who you are. But the fact remains you are promoting a bogus college. I repeat again Institute of Business Studies and Research is institution established by me but the maanagers like Monga have cheated the whole world. Legal actions have been intitiated. Do you think you will continue to promote till decisions yare taken by court. I can handover tons of documents to prove that it is a bogus college, but you people want it should come in Press that it a bogus. Very bad,then wait for the Press, till brings that cat out, but wikipedia's name will be spoiled. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Institute of Business Studies and Research (talk • contribs)

I have added the {{disputed}} tag to the article Institute of Business Studies & Research to allow you time to make your case on the article's talk page, here. Please do not argue the merits of the article with me personally, it is not my place to make a decision regarding the outcome of this article. Other editors will review the information you provide on the talk page and hopefully a consensus can be reached. Accurizer 14:14, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Atlantic County Freeholder AfD's

I saw you had just added stub templates to Freeholder articles in Atlantic County and wanted to seek your participation (and hopeful support for retention) at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Atlantic County Board of Chosen Freeholders and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Kelly (Freeholder). See the Freeholder Board AfD for my opinion. Any thoughts? Alansohn 17:11, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

• I will freely admit that these are not the greatest candidates for retention. I had not been involved in their creation, and I only spotted them when changes were made to the County article. I agree that the election criteria under consideration should cover both candidates with adequate sources, and would also cover successful candidates once they are in office. I also agree that a clearer, more objective criteria needs to be developed to cover many areas, and elected officials is one of them. I'm not asking you (or anyone else) to do anything you don't believe in. I sincerely feel that we can make Wikipedia a far more useful tool by including articles for New Jersey's 137 members of each Board of Chosen Freeholders, and that we can do so without making Wikipedia an "indiscriminate collection of useless information" as is often used in opposition. Additionally, the fact that most of this effort is being done as part of WP:NJ, an organized effort to expand details about the state, militates against the concern that this is being done on a willy-nilly basis. Alansohn 19:31, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

List of shopping malls in New Jersey

I hadn't realised that the article was up for AfD until I saw that a reference to the article was a red link. A few clicks led me to the realization that it had been part of a blanket AfD. While I may be tempting the fates, I think the article as I've written it will withstand scrutiny, as it will discuss the role of the shopping mall in New Jersey, and not be a straight laundry list. I don't understand why some lists are rioutinely deleted, while many others that are far more meaningless survive. I will consider your suggestion to remove "List of" from the tiltle, as a means to take the red flag away from the bull(s). Thanks again for your support and your most helpful suggestions! Alansohn 00:53, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I can't say you didn't warn me. It was about time that someone spotted the title of the article and started an AfD. I agree 100% that the words List of is what set them off. If you read several of the deletes posted, it seems clear that these people read the tiyle, but not the article. I never got around to your suggestion, and this will probably be as good a time as any to do the move. Thanks again for your advice and for your vote of support. Alansohn 03:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thanks so much for voting, Accurizer! Thanks so much for your support vote on my request for adminship! With a final vote count of (82/5/0), it succeeded, and I'm now an administrator! I am thrilled with the overwhelming positive support from the community, and sincerely thank you once again for taking your time to voice your opinion. Feel free to contact me with any comments/suggestions in the future! —Mets501 (talk) 03:44, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Reality TV Contestants

I've started a discussion section on the Deletion Policy page regarding reality television contestants. My main point is this: the ABC.com homepage does a perfectly fine job of sorting out who is a contestant on Survivor, and their background. Jimmy Wales stated we should focus on quality, not quantity. What is it that these entries give to the internet that is not already covered by their homepages for the game shows?

Would you mind weighing in with an opinion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Deletion_policy#Reality_Telvision_Contestants

{{oldafdfull}}

Ah, you are right, I didn't notice any mainspace links in the AfD, so I didn't remove what I didn't see from the AWB list. Good catch, and thanks. Prodego ^talk 01:22, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi?

Thanks for explaibing about Wikipedia and all that! I was just trying to do an article for my club - I didn't know it wasn't allowed. Thanks again! Jonny16 16:16, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Move Roman Catholic Church to Catholic Church

There is a vote at Talk:Roman Catholic Church: A Vote on the Title of this Article on moving Roman Catholic Church to Catholic Church. You are invited to review it. --WikiCats 04:16, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

2006 Florida State Seminoles football team

Looking for some help on a really small matter. One user, PassionoftheDamon, consistantly changes the "Offensive Scheme" in the info box to "pro style" or "vertical pass" when it is in fact "Pro Set". I have provided links on the user's talk page and on the 2006 Florida State Seminoles football team discussion page verifying the accurateness of the "pro set" change that I keep making, but he refuses to acknowledge it. Even the FSU football media guide, which should be the definitive source of this info, claims that it is "pro set". Please help. AriGold 12:47, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I performed my own cursory research on the web and found references to "Pro Set" as a formation and also "Pro Set" as a scheme. I think you should update the article Pro Set to address this apparent dual meaning and cite some appropriate references. I would also recommend linking "Pro Set" in the info box of the 2006 Florida State Seminoles football team article to the Pro Set article. If the other editor is not able to provide verifiable sources for his information, it does not belong in Wikipedia. I will ask him if he is able to provide sources. I hope this helps. Regards, Accurizer 22:02, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

Hi Accurizer,

Thanks for your warm welcome on my talk page. I was wondering, what's the difference between a talk page and a user page? Also, how do I get a link to the articles I've created on my user page? I've noticed some people have little icons on their user page showing what they're interested in - where do I get these from?

Thanks.

Gruffle Gaw

Looking at your user page, it appears you've done well in figuring out how to link articles. Manually linking the articles you've created seems to be the best approach. There is an automated "my contributions" link at the top of the screen, in which you can see all of your contributions. Other editors can view this by clicking on "User contributions" in the toolbox on the lower left of the screen. However, this is not especially useful to keep track of a small number of articles, since the contributions list fills up rather quickly. For user boxes, you can browse the available boxes at Wikipedia:Userboxes. I hope this information is helpful. If I may be of further assistance, please do not hesitate to ask. Again, welcome! Regards, Accurizer 18:55, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Schools

Thanks for the heads up. I almost certainly never would have noticed it on my own. I have a strong affection for school articles in general, but I was impressed with the level of organization, thought and planning that had been put in by the WP:EiC folks, and was glad to provide my show of support. It's nice that I was quoted in this regard. Thanks again for all of your efforts. Let me quote from a post here from me several weeks ago: "Down with Deletionism! After all, even Deletionists went to school somewhere (and if not, that probably explains a great deal)." Alansohn 04:09, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Man! Why Don't you love me?

Man, why do you have to be so mean? Gosh! Can't we just have like a joke page on wikipedia? Like, it says Bill Gates, but it's random shit? And then theres a link to the REAL Bill Gates? Tha'd be funny! So many people would love that! Don't be hating me, man. I love you. this is gasmanhyjinks, by the way, the dude you been not being nice too. :(

Massdisturbtion

I started a page about a local band called Massdisturbtion yesterday. I got a message this afternoon about it being under consideration for speedy deletion unless I explained why they are notable and the message told me to visit the general biography criteria, which I did, and when I went to change it, the page had already been deleted. Help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Organic loaf of milk (talk • contribs)

Firstarticle template

Hi - thanks for the suggestion! I've put it into the template, along with a slight edit to make the "this article" bit more relevant. Thanks again :) Martinp23 14:31, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Why are the sprotected (and other) templates on the template list?

If administrators are the only ones who should be using these templates, why are they even on the list to begin with? I mean, I agree with you that admin should be the only ones doing it, but still... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diez2 (talk • contribs)

Meetup in Philly

Hi, Accurizer! There will be a Wikipedia Meetup in Philadelphia on 4 November. If you're interested in coming, RSVP by editing Wikipedia:Meetup/Philadelphia 2 to reflect the likelihood of your being able to attend. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me on my talk page. Hopefully, we'll all see you (and each other) on the 4th! --CComMack (t•c) 16:55, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Hsilub

Blocked, thanks. NawlinWiki 01:43, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Vinyl banners

I am the original author...My writing was vandalized by a self promoting site: http://www.magic vinyl printing.com/ spaces included to avoid giving them the back link they were trying to steal. please know that kodak, airparksign and international sign are all recognised leaders int the sign industry. If you review the source code on the group at magicvinyl you will quickly see they are spam artist and tried to steal a back link they did not deserve. I wrote the article and stand behind my origional work. I gave airpark sign a back link as i quoted one of thier employees in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.226.107.160 (talk • contribs)

Linking to a commercial website is not appropriate as Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. A better approach would be to find a published source for the information, perhaps in an industry website such as the two that remain in the article, and link to it instead. Accurizer 14:42, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Template:USCapital

Hi Accurizer,
Thanks for your message re the above; glad to know you approve of the amended layout!  However:

...I thought, however, the heading should say "Capital" instead of "Capitals" since there is only one capital at any given time...

Good point – I agree entirely, so have moved the template to {{US capital}} and added a comment to the code for the sake of future editors. Hope this (and col 1's align="right") is okay. Thanks for a useful template, David Kernow (talk) 15:35, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
...PS Haven't left a comment in the code but amended the title used in the template instead, hopefully removing any need for the comment. David (talk) 15:40, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Vandal 66.254.172.194

I note that you posted an 'anon vandal' on the above User:talk page on 11th October. This same user committed a minor vandalism on Findhorn Foundation today, which I have fixed. I am relatively new to Wikipedia and would appreciate any advice if you think more needs to be done. Ben MacDui 17:02, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Reply: [3]

Thanks for your reply. I presume that in future I could simply add the {{test2}} warning or similar myself. Is/was there any reason to inform the original poster of an 'anon vandal' of am I being over-fastidious?? Ben MacDui 11:20, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Reply: [4]

Query about a dispute, page evaluations, and arbitration

Hello,

As you invited me to "ask any questions" upon my entry to the wiki process, and marking Big Wow Theory for deletion, I thought I'd ask you. What can one do if there is a persistent difference of opinion? Noticing that the articles for Planck scale and Planck epoch were both stubs, I decided to flesh those articles out. I thought the Planck scale entry was especially weak, as it made no mention of its most common usage in Cosmology, as a lower limit to the size or distance scale. It was also my opinion that it's well-accepted or frequently assumed that the universe had its beginning at the Planck scale, and that this should be stated as one of the reasons the Planck scale is assumed to be significant.

Another user, Yevgeny Kats has disputed this repeatedly, and I have attempted to be civil and assume good faith. On some level; I appreciate his attempts to insist on my precise correctness, and to change erroneous or misleading sections where necessary. While I admire his tenacity, and the strength of his knowledge in some areas, he seems biased toward the view that the Planck scale is primarily the purview of particle physicists and string theory, with a decided preference for cosmological scenarios that involve some kind of a pre-bang context.

I have put a long note explaining my stand on his user page, and have assembled a fair number of references which support my view. Brian Greene states that it's believed the universe began as a Planck-sized Nugget quite explicitly in "The Elegant Universe," but after doing a search on arxiv.org for papers containing the term Planck scale I also came up with a number which support my view, along with a few dissenting opinions. I have tried to reflect consensus views in all my wiki editing, but Yevgeny seems to be striving for 'correctness' instead. I've suggested in my note that he should consider writing an article for arxiv.org himself, but I don't know how this will go over. I will wait to make any significant edits until there is a response. I have announced my intent to create a References section, and I will go ahead if I have time, but I'll only correct typos, and leave the content intact for now.

I would invite and request that you visit Planck scale, Planck epoch, and Yevgeny's user page. I am frustrated, at this point, but I don't want to give up on the Wiki, because I feel it needs me as much as I need the arena for sharpening my knowledge and skills. I have suggested to Yevgeny that we start by assuming plausible extensions to the FLRW model (i.e. - inflationary universe theories), and state later in the article that these views may not be true, citing possible exceptions or objections separately from the mainstream view, which should make up the bulk of the article, in my opinion. I know I've made some errors already, but it seems that Yevgeny has introduced a few, as well. Is there a final word on this?

Respectfully Yours,

Jonathan J. Dickau JonathanD 01:47, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Initial reply: [5]

Thanks for the Notice

Hey, Accurizer! Thanks for letting me know about the "double vote" in the Riddle vision deletion debate. That second vote was not placed by me. I left a note on the anom's talk page welcoming him to WIkipedia and warning him not to impersonate other users.

Thanks again! -- P.B. Pilhet / Talk 15:41, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Your message on my talkpage.

Are you an admin? I didnt think so.

please, dont tell me what to do unless you are of proper authority to do so.

--Suicidal tendancies 09:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Original message and reply: [6]

Reply

Dont tell me what to do, people like you put others off using wikipedia, like i said earlier, you are of no authority.

--Suicidal tendancies 11:11, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

what? cant respond?

Yup, didnt think you had any response, and, erm what rules did I break again? Oh, That's right! NONE!

--Suicidal tendancies 15:15, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Note: See next message. Accurizer 18:27, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

...for reverting the vandalism to my userpage. Much appreciated. -- Codeine 18:25, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

MartinBot vandalism

Hi - thanks for reverting that vandlism to MartinBot's page - by the looks of it, it's the only AV bot running at the moment, so the other bots couldn't revert for it :(. Again, thanks -- Martinp23 19:30, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for defending my user page! :) Jacek Kendysz 19:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)