User talk:BarlowC4

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common raven

Why do you think I'm trying to clean up you addition to this featured article? Don't just dump everything back again, if you don't understand my edits, ask, and we can sort something out. I'm logging off shortly, so I won't reply until tomorrow Jimfbleak - talk to me? 19:18, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry I was so abrupt last night, I was tired. I appreciate that your edits are in good faith. The problem is that the article is a Featured article, representing our best work. That means it has to meet MoS as well as be well researched and good prose. You need to look at the rest of the article to see if your edits are consistent with the existing style. Examples

• Heading should have normal capitalisation, lower case except first word. You don't need a new heading for every paragraph
• Refs immediately follow punctuation, not precede. You are referencing everything, but check that your refs give the same detail as similar existing refs. Your Brown ref was missing journal, year, volume, issue and pages. If you want to use a ref more than once, give it a name <ref name=namehere>details</ref>, and next time just put <ref name=namehere/>
• You can use templates for refs which make it less likely that you will miss something, but that's up to you
• Refs to web only-sites need, as a minimum, the title, publisher and access date. On-line versions of journals and books should be formatted as if hard publications, not as web pages, and should have page numbers (and isbn for books). Again, check the existing refs
• This is already a long article, and the physiology is making it larger and potentially unbalanced. A lot of what you are adding is background that applies to all birds, better added to a different or a new article, concentrate on what's specific to Common Raven. The lead section of the page summarises the whole article, so you need a BRIEF mention of physiology there

I hope this helps, sorry again for the brusqueness, Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:01, 22 October 2013 (UTC)