User talk:Brettfawer

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Hello, Brettfawer, and welcome to Wikipedia! My name is Shalor and I work with Wiki Education; I help support students who are editing as part of a class assignment.

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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:24, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Notification of special editing rules relating to abortion

This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have shown interest in abortion. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

Because you have shown interest in a highly controversial area of Wikipedia, please carefully ensure that you are following all editing rules. Reach out to Shalor (Wiki Ed) or your instructor if you run into any problems. Elysia (Wiki Ed) (talk) 22:08, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Your edit at Paternal rights and abortion

Hello Brettfawer, I noticed you made this edit at Paternal rights and abortion adding an assertion about 18 past Supreme Court cases, along with a citation. You had the right instinct, using the {{cite web}} template and creating a citation, but unfortunately I have had to undo your edit, for several reasons:

• You added this to the lead, and per WP:LEAD and WP:LEADFOLLOWSBODY, new material of this nature should normally go in the body of the articl. The lead is a summary of the article body, and is not for unique content not already mentioned in the body. However, this is a relatively minor point, and easily fixed just by moving the content down. However, the other issues aren't so easily solved.
• The article topic concerns paternal rights, but your addition doesn't seem to have any connection to that. Perhaps your addition would work in another article, but I don't see the relevance here.
• More seriously, the source you used, does not verify the claim about 18 past cases; in fact, that page is about 18 cases in state courts, that might, or might not end up in the Supreme Court; that is, it's about potential future cases.
• Finally, the added content is vague: 18 cases about what?

These links may help you find some sources talking about the article topic; I notice that the NY Times has three relevant articles, for example, and scholar has numerous others:

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

You might wish to check out Help:Editing as well. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me or User:Shalor (Wiki Ed). Mathglot (talk) 23:27, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

• Thank you Mathglot! I also wanted to add that the source in question isn't the most neutral source either - it's to the feminist organization National Organization for Women, which is staunchly pro-abortion. It's not that I think that the organization would deliberately falsify anything, just that they're going to be writing with a specific stance in mind. It's typically better to go for academic and scholarly sources when it comes to topics like this.

It's also important to be careful about tone, as we don't want to be too casual or seem like we're taking a stance on the matter. For example, unless something is widely considered to be inhumane, we can't use that as a descriptive term ourselves. Even then it has to be written extremely carefully. That said, the prevalent issue with the addition of content about Patricia is that this isn't about parental rights, rather it's about a girl who had to seek an abortion after being raped. There is no mention of the father seeking any rights in the matter. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:25, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

You have an overdue training assignment.

Please complete the assigned training modules. --Ecs222 (talk) 20:42, 5 May 2020 (UTC)