Brian, you're a marvel! I absolutely *love* the article on Kitsch, and wish I could have written it myself. As for your request to loosen up the style, I probably could, a bit, but I'm not exactly the master of relaxed, hip writing myself-- there are others who would do a much better job. I'm flattered all the same at the request and if you really think my help would be an improvement, I'll do all I can!
I will try, if I can, to inject a bit on those like myself who collect kitch as kitch, which is probably a postmodern thing. But I'd welcome your comments on this first.
Steverapaport 21:32, 22 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Hierarchy of genres
Hi Brian. Flicking through random pages, I came across Hierarchy of genres, which appears to be very largely your work. I was so impressed I had to pop in here and tell you. It's a great example of what Wikipedia should be - erudite, informed and well-written. Good work! --ALargeElk | Talk 09:27, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Brian. thanks for taking the time to write a message, It is an excellent article, in hindsight I realise that I wrote my hasty critique in a state of pique, I hope that it was not too harsh. the reason that I felt it important to include the english side of the coin was that i came to the page following a trail via more ambiguous terms such as 'art' 'fine art' and even 'beauty' - by comparison these pages are quite speculative. your work is remarkably encyclopedic given the amount of space.
Of course a nod to what was occuring in england at the time would be welcome, if only because it is the root (via William Morris) of the arts and crafts movement, the clash with the early modernists (the Bloomsbury group) and the subsequent political split between 'art' and 'craft' that mirrors social changes taking place in Britain in the early C20. It has been said that the work of James Joyce and Conan Doyle exemplify the different stances in thier respective exclusivity and inclusivity of the general public. In the uk at least is still very much a live issue - It leads to odd forms of classification, such as 'Artist Blacksmith' as well as two seperate streams of art education and at government level, both an Arts Council and a Crafts Council.
I wish I had the breadth of knowledge to write a coherent account of the british events, but unfortunately my understanding stems from practise rather than historical study. Good luck with your writing, I am sure it will be well considered and very interesting. regards DavidP 11:13, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
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